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Ghost resurrection questions.

Hey all, I just had a few questions come to mind after watching some older Byf videos. 1. If the Speaker usually has a few Ghosts trailing around him and we've got our light back, why can't they just res the speaker? 2. Could Ghosts without Guardians resurrect those Guardians lost in the Red War or even the Iron Lords? I know that some Ghosts can res people who aren't their Guardians. I'm talking about the story around Shin Malphur.
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  • [quote]Hey all, I just had a few questions come to mind after watching some older Byf videos. 1. If the Speaker usually has a few Ghosts trailing around him and we've got our light back, why can't they just res the speaker? 2. Could Ghosts without Guardians resurrect those Guardians lost in the Red War or even the Iron Lords? I know that some Ghosts can res people who aren't their Guardians. I'm talking about the story around Shin Malphur.[/quote] 1. Ghost's have a specific person they're bound to, they can't just revive any one on the street and say "you're a super soldier now" other wise our Ghost would've rezed the first skeleton he found 2. We don't know, Shin is a really weird case and there's nothing else like him in the lore.

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    • 1. Because the man in a mask wasn’t a Guardian. And even if he was he wouldn’t have any Ghosts to revive him because he was kinda imprisoned in a Cabal ship at the time of his death? Did we just all of a sudden forget that? 2. Ghosts without Guardians revive people all the time. That’s how they GET their Guardians in the first place. They have to revive them for that person to become a Guardian. Come on, man...basics.

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      • The Speaker is not a Guardian and didn’t have any Ghosts around him when he died because he was a prisoner in the Immortal. If he has the spark then perhaps a Ghost could find him and resurrect him as a Guardian, but if he doesn’t have the spark it won’t be possible. Bungie hasn’t confirmed anything about the possibilities of Ghosts pairing with new Guardians or Guardians being able to go through more than one Ghost. To be clear, the grimoires card only stated that Jaren’s Ghost [i]spoke[/i] to Shin and has never appeared in lore again and Shin has never been shown to have a Ghost since then, so there is no confirmation that Jaren’s Ghost bonded with him. All of that is theory.

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        • <The Speaker likely isn't coming back. I'm not sure about those who died during the Red War. Considering the Light transcends death on many occasions, I wouldn't be surprised if a Ghost could go back to its partner and resurrect them.>

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          • Well to answer the first question. He was captured at the time he died, and since Gaul knew about how the light worked(he did basically highjack it), it’s more than likely they were destroyed similar to Cayde’s was before he died(still hurts my hunter heart.) Gaul more than likely knew how the resurrection cycle worked so he more than likely destroyed them. So no resurrection. Plus, even though he has ghosts following him, was it ever confirmed that the Speaker was a light bearer? He was never referred to as a guardian and little is actually know of his time prior to serving as the speaker as it isn’t a name, but a title.

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