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Edited by Phoecian: 6/28/2022 3:48:42 AM
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The Iron Lords must return.

For a while now, 6-ish years since Rise of Iron, the Iron Lords have been dormant since their rebuilding from the conclusion of Rise of Iron. I believe it is time that the Iron Lords return as a major player in the current Destiny story, whether SIVA returns (though I hope it does with WOTM) or not. For the last 6-ish years the Iron Lords have been rebuilding their strength since before and after the Red War, it only makes sense for them to return in power to challenge the current authority of the Vanguard as leaders of Humanity. No, I do not want this to be a singular seasonal storyline, rather it's capable for it to be made into a multi year spanning narrative. With Lord Saladin's absence Lady Efrideet* reveals the new Iron Lords, made up of Guardians from Destiny 1 who chose to stay as Iron Lords, with her as a mentor-like role to the new generation of Iron Lords. This will also allow Bungie to craft entirely new characters with separate motives from the Vanguard and the Guardians. Obviously they would mirror Lord Saladin with a more traditional/old world view condemning the use of stasis/darkness, the Drifter and his shady businesses, and the alliances with the Cabal and especially with the House of Light. Bungie can use the return of the Iron Lords as an excuse and catalyst for the return of the Iron Temple, Destiny 1 Iron Banner Gear/Rise of Iron Gear and, if they really wanted to (and should), bring back the rest of the Cosmodrome + Plaguelands with the crashed Almighty unleashing a new threat of SIVA infecting the Cosmodrome as a whole. Eramis' Fallen Empire could even return here out of desperation for a new power in SIVA in addition to stasis, so that it doesn't feel entirely out of pocket for a Fallen SIVA threat to return, though maybe a bit cheesy. Shiro-4 could even make a return here as a middle man between the scattered Vanguard and the now united Iron Lords. Though aggressive with their stance the Iron Lords will play the role of the Brutes from Halo 2, overthrowing the old guard to become the new. I would even call this challenge of authority to be the reason as to why we return to a now expanded Tower of old, to resemble a position of power over the Last City, where the Iron Lords and the Vanguard are at odds with each other in a presidential style election race. In theory, this will also reintroduce the player choice style story we saw back in Season of the Drifter, where the player actively influences their story by choosing to stand with the Iron Lords or the Vanguard, though something actually becomes of this. I am tired of the current seasonal narratives that amount to nothing as their plot has no consequence of the overarching story. It's about damn time that all the seasons focus on one overall plot where the expansion adds new opportunities for the plot to adapt to new threats. I know this might seem like too much in some aspects, however I believe it is necessary as of right now for the Iron Lords, at least, to return in strength to challenge the Vanguard and current generation of Guardians. *Or some other new Iron Lord from the new generation.
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  • For those who played Rise of Iron are the new Iron Lords.[spoiler]licks finger [/spoiler]

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  • Hell I'd be happy if they bought destiny 1 remastered to pc

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  • I just want the salad man's cape as a titan.

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    • Edited by TheShadow: 6/28/2022 12:56:44 PM
      Yeah, No! Bungie dumb messed up enough things as it is over the years bringing D1 into D2 because they are an uncreative developer. D1 shouldn't have ever been added to this D2, period, but because of players constantly asking for D1 the last 6 years to be brought over the mess we have now is because of players like yourself. Do you even realize the only reason this game ever had any quality content was because of the resources Activision provided??? Meaning the studios that knew what they were actually doing had to save this new Bungie from destroying the entire D2 base game. 2 years now the quality of this game in every single aspect of it has been constantly getting worse since they have been on their own. The only reason ROI turned out well was because of Berrett who at least cared about the work he was doing, and where is he now, working on Bungie's new mobile game.

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        Guardian,Archon Of Light
        Guardian,Archon Of Light

        Blade Of The Traveler - old

        I miss Lady Efrideet, since Salad Bar is with the Cabal now, she should be running the banner, I miss her sweet voice , and I much prefer it over Saladins Cringe Commentary I know she is a pacifist, but maybe she could need help with something, and with the darkness coming pacifism is no longer an option

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        • The ones we killed the corpse's of? Yeah...I don't think they're coming back chief

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          • The current season narratives have no effect on the overarching story??? Season of the lost directly caused witch queen? Every single season since shadowkeep have had significant consequences on the overarching story.

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            • Edited by ((Global Medic~)): 6/29/2022 12:59:54 AM
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            • Stopped reading at “I am tired of seasonal content not aligning with the big overall story” (paraphrasing) Clearly you have not been paying attention from Season of the Hunt and onwards

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              • They're dead

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              • Edited by Kestrel, King of Excrement: 6/28/2022 4:42:36 AM
                The Iron Lords won’t return. 98% of the Lords were vaporized by Ra-Ra-Rasputin ([i]Lover of the Seraph Queen[/i]!) when they tried storming the Plaguelands. All the heavy hitter Iron Lords are entombed in the SIVA replication chamber and are reanimated corpses. Saladin has been relieved of duty as caretaker of the Iron Temple and has joined the Cabal as Valus Forge. Effie is playing house in her Lightbearer hippie commune…somewhere. And us? The Young Wolf? We’re simply too busy grinding weekly story missions, pinnacles, god rolls, bright dust, and other menial crap.

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                • We don’t need another Iron Lord DLC now that Saladin- er, Bracus Forge is with the Cabal.

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                • I don't see the Iron Lords returning just to pick a fight with the Vanguard, they have no right and now is literally the WORST time to pull anything like that. I'd be stoked to see them return in some way in the future but in D2's story we just don't have time to commit to entire new storylines. Bungie are already using some of these seasons to wrap up long dead storylines as it is. When there's supposedly a second collapse coming and still so much about enemies like the Vex and Xivu Arath we haven't explored, I don't think they can commit more time to side stories. Side note: I hope to god they don't just bring in and kill Xivu Arath in the next expansion... At least Savathun had years of lead up.

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                  • Edited by Desolator0: 6/27/2022 7:11:02 PM
                    Pretty sure it's just Lord Saladin and Lady Efrideet who are the last remaining original Iron Lords.

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                    • Issues: Timing: this is the absolute worst time to start in fighting about whose top dog. What’s the Difference?: what would a change in leadership bring? Unless Efrideet has a solution to the current threat, how are the Iron Lords any better than the Vanguard? End result: a bunch of dead Guardians and probably civilians. That’s what an internal strife among Guardians results in. We saw that with the last batch of bad Guardians who were in the City. Stuff went down, people died. The main problem is you seem to think Iron Lords aren’t Guardians who work with the Vanguard. Lore wise, that’s not true. Our Guardian wasn’t the only one to become a Lord in RoI, many did. That was the point of Saladin reviving them back then. So this whole time, all he has been doing is taking regular Guardians and training them up to be Iron Lords. Back in the day they took control because it was lawless. Lightbearers killing each other in their sleep type crazy. Starting a coup to take power when everyone is facing extinction is definitely not in the best interest of the City or Humanity. Efrideet, if I’m not mistaken, is looking for the next Speaker candidate anyway.

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                      • Edited by pumpkinspice1994: 6/27/2022 4:43:37 PM
                        I actually really love this idea (I’ve always loved the Iron Lord theme) but I have just one problem with it. Lady Efrideet joined a peaceful colony in and undisclosed location, that is exploring new ways of the light without violence, after the iron lords were killed by Rasputin so I don’t believe she would have a secret clan of Irons Lords to challenge the Vanguard.

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                        • Too close to the end of things to toss in throwaway stories. Still waiting on the drifter and the nine to be settled ffs.

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                          • The only place for the Iron Lords is back at the Iron Temple entrance cleaning up the wolf poop like Saladin did back in D1.

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                          • I’m an iron lord

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                            • The iron lords represents the old ways from a bygone Era. There is no point in them returning with the vanguard and the alliance between humans, cabal, Eliksne. Maybe after lightfall we could a an iron lord faction

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                            • Nice idea

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