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10/25/2020 11:24:29 AM
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What do people mean KWTD by exact definition?

Know what to do. Yes, I'm very well aware of the definition, however I want to know EXACTLY what people mean when they say this. Just to explain why I'm asking this, I left destiny 2 a few weeks after the launch of the leviathan raid, mainly because I just felt like there was absolutely nothing to do. I've only completed it once and it was a rather painful experience, in short, I fumbled the most on that raid (especially during the last encounter with the plates) and personally I didn't feel like coming back to the game after that experience as I personally felt responsible for why it took so long to get it done. fast forward two years to today, I finally started playing again since its now on gamepass with all expansions, I've managed to grab numerous exotics, enjoying the random rolls I receive, and essentially prepping myself for endgame content, there's just one problem however... Missing out on the raids that are going to get vaulted. Soooo I've been spending the past few days on the lfg sites and trying to grasp my head around what people are looking for in their raid teams, I haven't joined any of them simply out of social anxiety not to mention my only evidential proof is only having one clear total in the leviathan raid from 2 years ago (ironically also leaving, technically making it zero). Getting to the question now, KWTD is the most common phrase that comes up in lfg, however from my experience of raiding in Destiny 1: knowing what to do ≠ having experience in the raid itself You can watch as many videos on the raid itself, no matter how long they are or how many rewatches you've done to make absolute sense of it, however you won't have the same pressure within the raid itself from the wipe mechanics to the communication with the rest of the team. So my question is, are people actually asking for clears on these raids? Or do they just want people to understand the bare mechanics? Because from my experience, people still need to be told what to do even though they have watched a guide beforehand, I've done enough VoG and Crota to know this as I have been in both the newbie side and the veteran side on Destiny 1. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated. Note: I'm not throwing shade on any party, I just want to be absolutely certain as I really hope to get these raids done before they leave, last thing I want is to be a hindrance and/or to waste my time and everyone else's since I don't even have 10+ clears on anything in general. (side note: I also tried looking into the sherpa reddit however my timezone is completely off scale as most times I find on there are either 1:00am or 5:00am in the morning, Australia is also notorious for having terrible connection across countries, it's something I can deal with but not many others have the patience for... I also still have yet to check out the Xbox lfg posts but I'm just going to assume it's essentially the same thing on there as well. Apologies in advance if I put this in the wrong forum category)

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    KWTD can seem a little vague. For me at least, you kwtd once you’re at the point with the raid where you need nothing explained to you, have a good understanding of encounter flow and will very rarely make [b]mechanical[/b] mistakes. Some people may reach this point after a couple or runs, some may take longer. But you won’t kwtd after just watching a guide- it extends beyond knowing the mechanics. Essentially, it boils down to can you just crack on and do it?

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    • Know what to do means what it says. Know what to do in the raid. This means mechanics, callouts, loadouts, etc.

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    • Edited by Swiftlock: 10/28/2020 4:32:43 AM
      It often means "I suck and need to be carried"

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    • KWTD usually turns out to mean ‘ I want 5 others to carry me ‘.

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    • It really means avoid this fireteam

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    • They mean they don't know what they're doing and are looking for someone to carry them through the activity.

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    • For me kwtd means you have a basic if not good at understanding each raid encounter inside that raid. Also being generally useful and savvy with your movement. You might kwtd but not know how to press space bar and still be a detriment

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      • Bit long so didnt finish reading. Generally they want you to have an understanding of the mechanics and or where to be. Obviously having actually done it is always a better understanding but people can be carried through raids and not necessarily know what to do. In my opinion if they put Kwtd and don't specify you need clears or check your account for clears, they can't be too concerned about that part. Or just join the ones who seem more inviting and dont have silly requirements like, kwtd

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        • A lot of people post it to be carried sadly

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        • KWTD for many has different definitions. For me KNOW WHAT TO DO, is exactly what it means to me. Have a general idea of what to do. Whether itd be a youtube video, or maybe even if you tried it out with another group for testing.

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        • My friend runs a great Sherpa discord which I also help in - https://discord.gg/38zyxN , I recommend you look here for people to help you with raids. Lots of different time zones. I also do raid help on Twitch, Sundays 12-5 UK time at www.twitch.tv/Jonty28. Hopefully between my Twitch and my friend’s Sherpa discord we can help you out. All help is free, we have been doing it for a few months now to show there is still light in this community.

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        • Edited by kellygreen45: 10/25/2020 11:54:17 AM
          Depends. Some people want to complete a raid or dungeon quickly, and aren't in a mood to teach someone new or inexperienced. Others, are blueberries themselves, are trying to farm for experienced players so that they can get carried through the content. You can usually tell the difference by what they require of others. The first kind of players just basically ask that you know what to do, or tell you that they'll check accomplishments just to see that you have indeed completed it before. They just want to know that you know the mechanics of the fight, and you aren't going to make all your rookie mistakes on their time. The second kind are the generally the ones that demand really outrageous things. "KWTD. Anyone with less than 20+ completions will be kicked". Really? If you're still LEARNING how to do a raid after your 20th run? Well.....I won't finish that thought..... The people demanding that are usually the people who are terrible themselves, and are looking for a carry. TLDR: If someone is saying, just "KWTD"....having a couple of completions under your belt is usually good enough. If you only have watched a video, but never actually run the raid or dungeon? Stick to those teams who say they're willing to teach. Otherwise you risk, making them mad when you start to (inevitably) make mistakes. Don't put yourself in the position of being the scapegoat for a failing team. The people making the outrageous demands about how experienced you need to be on their team? Avoid them. They're basically telling you that they are either looking to be carried; an impatient @sshole who is a terrible raid leader.....or both. Don't waste your time with them. They're doing you a favor by taking themselves out of the runnign.

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          • It’s suppose to mean “know what to do” as in know the encounters mechanics. If you want people who have done it, you ask for clears. KWTD is not a requirement for completions, just for mechanical knowledge of the raid. If someone uses it when they mean to ask for clears, they’re the fool.

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