if I where to go get ghosts,id most likely be around 2300. also,im not really hurt about having low grimore,i don't play for it. if I wanted I could go hunt hive ogres,wizards etc for a day and boost my grimore by a hundred without ghosts. but why would I? ive done everything in the game excluding the end of CE on hard and have done it all fairly easily with a low grimore,so why would I be hurt over it? nobodys ever said"ew Christmas noob,kick him" maybe its due to me being on ps where individuals only care about skill and not grimore. maybe its just ive been lucky with whom I get paired with. and if you've got to carry someone with an above 2000 grim through a raid theyre doing something wrong in the skill department. 2000 and above is where you have to spend time doing things over and over and gain exotics(or get ghosts) to gain more grim. 2000 is about full game completion with a bit extra for a few exotics. grim is a good indicator up to a point,the rest is just a grind for score.