You run through the portal everytime to help with oracles just in case anyway that's what I do get it done all the time no problems unless it bugs out so should always run through if you do and the relic guy does die cause people weren't helping you could pick the relic up saves wiping it's a team game if you fail it's everyone in that fire team is to blame you win as a team you lose as a team if you can't be like that then you should all stay pvp and stay off the raids cause at least I know if I need to find one person for my raid group won't be you or the guy who made this forum hahaha and I always get it done on reset day then I help out friends who were busy so I do all raids more than 3 times a week so you know this don't matter to me I'm just stating there is always something you can do as part of a team to help