It's clear to most of us whom were there at launch that Max light lvl no longer denotes mastery of the various skills required to play the more trying challenges of this game. A Max lvl guardians used to be not only powerful, but also skilled. It was earned through grinding raid and memorizing strategies. Yes there was cheese back then but it was modified to the version we all play today. Multiple portions regardless of the cheese still required teamwork and a know how of raid mechanics. I point the finger at bungie for making it far to easy to reach 30+. I understand there are new players and we all welcome them to the community, but we expect you to go through our trials and gain the skill we EARNED before you ask for handouts. We aren't willing to baby some of your because in the end you turn out as unskilled players. We want to help you, but some of us are impatient and grumpy after the trials of this game. All "I'm" asking of the new players is that you first learn through experience. Adults who play this game know nothing in life is free and that no one is just gunna give you handouts. We couldn't rush through levelling in this game an neither should you. Do the full process of learning Normal with the many other people on this forum complaining no one will help them. Then come to us on Hard and ask for help.