I mean it's been said a million times. But do you guys not understand that cheating is OUT OF CONTROL in PvP. No amount of fixing the pvp will mean diddly squat unless you fix cheating. How can you not understand this. I have one more Legend rank to go for Unbroken and this season has been THE WORST of all I've done. Cheating is completely out of control. Out of 6 games, I have played with blatant (not even hiding it) cheaters in 4 of them. And it was at least 1 or two people cheating on the other team. And I'm supposed to get to 5500 with this cesspool of human trash? And on top of it, a lot of these people have 11k+ Triumph score!!! Let that freakin' sink in. 11,000+ triumph score. That means they've been cheating for a LONG time and you did NOTHING. Are you kidding me? How is this fun? Am I supposed to play crucible like this? I can assure you I will not and people will realize soon enough that playing a game where people with mental issues or sadistic tendencies make an idiot out of you is simply not worth it. And you are planning on doing Crossplay?!!? Are you kidding me? Fix your god damn game and before ANYTHING else you do. Deal with cheating FIRST then you can add and improve PvP loot or whatever. Seriously. I've been playing Destiny since Alpha, it's disgusting and honestly insulting. I came back to play Destiny 2 after a break before Beyond Light, and I can assure you, people like me who you've been making money of off from the start, will and should completely move on. Your arrogance and lack of any effort to fix this tells me and honestly everyone else that you have no intention of doing anything about it except constantly giving lip service. I've stopped playing the game today again because it's literally pointless. There is no fun to be had for anyone who wants to play legit and enjoy PvP. And to give you a hint, the reason people don't enjoy and don't like PvP is the SAME. Cheating. When a casual person goes into PvP and gets absolutely stomped on by cheaters and not just good players, they lose any desire to play PvP. I am beyond average PvP player and I'm sick and tired of it, I can't even imagine why they would want to play. Until you stop doing PR stunts by "suing" cheat makers and address cheating with a proper anti-cheat and banning PEOPLE using cheats by HARDWARE and make it very expensive for them to even think about cheating PvP will always be garbage. But we all know why you have no intention of fixing it. Cheaters spend money too right? As always it's all about greed, so please spare us the righteous "we take cheating seriously" horsesh*t. At least have the spine and balls to come out and say we can't/don't want to fix it and we can only try to mitigate it. This way you save all of us time and frustration who actually want to play PvP to make a decision whether or not we want to at all deal with it.