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psstt hey i have more lore questions

i gots a few more questions that the lore junkies can answer so here it goes! 1. canonically, how many times has our guardian died? i know in the last call quest after cayde’s fight scene, ghost says “welcome back” and that we fell a few stories, so there’s one. any others? 2. do guardians grow hair? in the dark future lore book it mentions zavala having a beard, and in the titan hunt armor lore the titan has a beard he grew during the red war, but both of these were in situations where they didn’t have the light. so do guardians not have to cut their hair/shave because it never grows or what? 3. in a few different lore entries it talks about guardians dying hours later in some situations. did their ghosts not want to heal them? like, why let your guardian die a slow death if you can heal them during that time instead of waiting for them to die so you can revive? is there an explanation as to why they didn’t? 4. how exactly were the scorn made? in uldren’s lore book it said he like... cried on a fallen? and i guess that... turned him into a scorn? are you telling me the scorn were made from uldren’s tears? cuz if so i find that hilarious. 5. are there more civilians than guardians or the other way around? what’s the ratio of civilians to guardians? and last but certainly not least... WHERE. THE HELL. IS FENCHURCH??? [i][b]where did he go?[/b][/i] ok that’s it. thanks in advance! [spoiler]scorn when they see uldren: father me, an intellectual: scorn daddy[/spoiler]
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  • Ghosts can only revive and heal where the light is allowed in or darkness is too weak. There is a lore entry of a guardian stuck slowed in time on the almighty and his ghost wants to help him but she cant. The ghost says she has to wait 40,000 years until he finally makes it out the other side. Pretty sad. Ghosts can also choose to not revive you. In an entry a guardian is starting to go insane and a boulder falls ontop of him and the ghost peaces out because the guardian was crazy.

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  • [quote]1. canonically, how many times has our guardian died? i know in the last call quest after cayde’s fight scene, ghost says “welcome back” and that we fell a few stories, so there’s one. any others?[/quote]We die often, naturally. The canon is that we don’t die in situations where we’d be absolutely screwed (like deep in the Hellmouth and stuff). [quote]2. do guardians grow hair? in the dark future lore book it mentions zavala having a beard, and in the titan hunt armor lore the titan has a beard he grew during the red war, but both of these were in situations where they didn’t have the light. so do guardians not have to cut their hair/shave because it never grows or what?[/quote]Yes, they grow hair normally. Guardian bodies work exactly the same as regular people’s bodies. [quote]3. in a few different lore entries it talks about guardians dying hours later in some situations. did their ghosts not want to heal them? like, why let your guardian die a slow death if you can heal them during that time instead of waiting for them to die so you can revive? is there an explanation as to why they didn’t?[/quote]In some cases Ghosts can’t effectively heal their Guardian, depending on what’s afflicting them. For example, radiation and the vacuum of space are real trouble. Revival heals far more effectively. You may be remembering the Drifter dying of starvation and scorpion poison. That’s because he hated being healed by his Ghost and demanded that it didn’t. So it let him die then revived him. [quote]4. how exactly were the scorn made? in uldren’s lore book it said he like... cried on a fallen? and i guess that... turned him into a scorn? are you telling me the scorn were made from uldren’s tears? cuz if so i find that hilarious.[/quote]Riven, the Taken Ahamkara, was manipulating Uldren. Uldren found Fikrul dying (after being shot by Cayde) and wished to save Fikrul. Riven granted the wish, infusing Fikrul’s Ether with Darkness and giving it crazy revival powers with her Ahamkara magic. And so Fikrul became the first Scorn and source of Corrupted Ether. His Ether turns other Eliksni into Scorn. [quote]5. are there more civilians than guardians or the other way around? what’s the ratio of civilians to guardians?[/quote]More civilians. We still don’t know the ratio, especially because Bungie is very vague but generous with the number of Guardians. Take a look down at the City, the vast majority of people living in it are not Guardians. But there’s still at least thousands of Guardians, apparently. [quote]and last but certainly not least... WHERE. THE HELL. IS FENCHURCH??? [i][b]where did he go?[/b][/i][/quote]He’s one of the Hidden. He’s out scouting and gathering intel all the time.

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    • Edited by LionSoldier11YT: 1/22/2021 9:09:22 AM
      1. I don’t know. 2. I mean, if they want to. They are people, they just don’t die, so therefore they can do all the normal things humans and awoken can do. 3. First, I think it’s just laziness on their Ghosts part. Second, a few are for research. One story in Ghost Stories is a Ghost constantly watching his Guardian die in every way possible, from getting shot in the face, to months of radiation poisoning. 4. Yeah, I don’t understand it too well either, but in Fanatic Part I, it says after Mara died, he started using Ether, which basically means he had a drug problem. So my hypothesis is that the mixture of awoken magic, Ether, and the Golden Gun that was supposed to kill Fikrul was what happened. 5. Maybe? I’m not sure the exact rate of Guardians to civilians, but there are more civilians than Guardians. And too answer your question, Fenchurch never existed.

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      • [quote]i gots a few more questions that the lore junkies can answer so here it goes! 1. canonically, how many times has our guardian died? i know in the last call quest after cayde’s fight scene, ghost says “welcome back” and that we fell a few stories, so there’s one. any others? 2. do guardians grow hair? in the dark future lore book it mentions zavala having a beard, and in the titan hunt armor lore the titan has a beard he grew during the red war, but both of these were in situations where they didn’t have the light. so do guardians not have to cut their hair/shave because it never grows or what? 3. in a few different lore entries it talks about guardians dying hours later in some situations. did their ghosts not want to heal them? like, why let your guardian die a slow death if you can heal them during that time instead of waiting for them to die so you can revive? is there an explanation as to why they didn’t? 4. how exactly were the scorn made? in uldren’s lore book it said he like... cried on a fallen? and i guess that... turned him into a scorn? are you telling me the scorn were made from uldren’s tears? cuz if so i find that hilarious. 5. are there more civilians than guardians or the other way around? what’s the ratio of civilians to guardians? and last but certainly not least... WHERE. THE HELL. IS FENCHURCH??? [i][b]where did he go?[/b][/i] ok that’s it. thanks in advance! [spoiler]scorn when they see uldren: father me, an intellectual: scorn daddy[/spoiler][/quote] 1) unconfirmed, but assume it’s a lot. 2) Guardians may have the ability to come back from the dead; but out biology works. We can eat and digest, excrete, breathe, and have high functioning motor neurone skills. Growing a beard is very possible. We’ve also seen it. Osiris and Saladin both have beards. 3) I’m not entirely too sure about what lore tab you’re referring to but it’s likely either the ghost’s choice (maybe the guardian wasn’t all to good) but it could be the Guardian’s choice. The latter is more likely as Ghosts don’t tend to leave a guardians side. 4) from a little bit after the events of the Battle Over Saturn, Uldren became corrupted by Riven. He managed to create the House of Dusk and started leading scavenger crews out in the Reef. Remaining out of sight of both the Awoken and Guardian forces. He was with some members of House Kings when he found the dying Archon. He felt some sadness and wished that Fikrul wouldn’t die; shedding a tear which fell into Eliksni’s wound. The body began to be corrupted by darkness and the Ether in his body began to turn into Dark Ether which was then recreated and used to create the Scorn army. 5) it’s unknown, but I’d argue its probably something like 2:9 guardians to civilians. 6) Fenchruch Everis is a member of Ikora’s Hidden. He writes a few entries of the Stolen Intelligence lore book. He’s out there doing stuff for her.

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