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Edited by ShotgunWaifu:
10/12/2022 10:14:58 AM
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Why am I getting matchmade against Flawless players in Trials?
I'm not good, played my first games of Trials in D2 yesterday. My teammates were also playing for the first time. We get consistently put against extremely tryhard sweats who one-shot us in mere seconds after the round starting and t-bag so excessively you'd think their controller might break. Why? This isn't fun for us, and it's not really fun for them either.
[b]EDIT:[/b] I'm not complaining that this activity is hard - I'm not stupid. I take issue with the lobbies I get being ridiculously unbalanced. When I say ”I’m not good”, I’m comparing myself to my opponents whose banners have 500 flawless runs while I’m just getting into Trials. Telling me to ”git gud” or ”stop playing you don’t deserve Trials” isn’t helpful and I’m really sorry for you. I’m not a new player in any way shape or form, I’m not going in with random gear expecting to go flawless on first try. Please keep your comments civil <3
[b]EDIT 2:[/b] https://twitter.com/a_dmg04/status/1430582027892322312?s=21 <3
[b]EDIT 3:[/b] My second flawless weekend now, lobbies feel fair. Sometimes I end up playing against people with 2500+ elo, sometimes I get a person running two primaries. Overall, the quality of matches has gone way up. Haven't seen a single cheater either. Reward structure is, well, rewarding, and encourages playing after going flawless. Very happy with the mode.
[b]EDIT 4:[/b] The 3rd weekend took 7 hours of nonstop grind to go flawless. Combination of labs and the map being Wormhaven definetly encourages camping and toxicity. Oh, and starting to see cheaters again! There's the gamemode I know! The matchmaking also felt awful with little care of matching tickets or skill, making for very unbalanced and ridiculous lobbies. I'm hoping these experiments will lead to healthy choises on Bungie's part.
[b]EDIT 5:[/b] Since this post still seems to resonate with people, I thought I'd recap the current state of Trials. The problem with this gamemode is that it is hostile in it's design and pushes people away. While I've improved enough to have a positive Trials KD and have sherpa'd a few friends to the lighthouse, the mode itself has gone back to it's miserable state. The games are never balanced. Either my team is put against people on a 15 loss streak, just trying to get 7 wins in total so they can stop playing, or we match people on a 20+ winstreak and they reset after wins, tbag after every kill and send very pleasant and lovely messages for encouragement. No wonder this gamemode is bleeding players.
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27 RepliesEdited by PapaSohan: 12/22/2020 3:16:39 PMThe problem with Trials right now is that Bungie has done a HORRIBLE job of tending to the flock. What I mean is, there is very little incentive for even a group of above average crucible players to partake in trials. For instance, my group and I tried over the weekend and had to sweat our balls off just to get to five wins. What was our reward? - Basically nothing. No pinnacle drop, no weapon I plan on ever using, no armor piece I'll ever actually use. As such, there's a good chance that an above average group like me doesn't even try next week. What you're left with is ONLY the super sweaty try hards. Making it even more difficult and less enjoyable to play trials. In order to revive trials to be more accessible and fun for the general population, Bungie needs to: -Revert matchmaking to the original Trials matchmaking in D1. e.g. you are randomly matchmade, regardless of the amount of wins on your ticket (I actually don't know for sure if this is still the way they are doing it) -Provide at least one bounty that is grind-able for Pinnacle drops. e.g. 100 precision kills by your fireteam rewards a pinnacle drop. -Provide pinnacle drops at 3 and 5 wins -Change the flawless requirement altogether. If you get to 7 wins, regardless if you have a loss, you get the "flawless" drop. Keep the flawless requirement for the title only. My group and I regularly went flawless in D1. We really don't even try in D2. I feel like we are representative of a huge amount of players out there. Bungie should be disappointed by that, and be doing something to correct it. Stop actively trying to make trials an exclusive sweat fest. Make trials fun again.
