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Edited by LovelyJoey21605: 4/3/2020 10:04:44 AM
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TWAB - Honestly, Please don't play Trials this weekend until Bungie makes changes.

So I read TWAB; Am I seeing this correctly? [quote]Over the last few weeks, we’ve been watching the conversation about Season of the Worthy, and more specifically Trials of Osiris. We wanted to walk through the topics we’ve been exploring and give some basic thoughts on what we’d like to approach in the future. Some items below may be addressed in the coming weeks, but other may take a season or more to tackle. We’re having meetings and discussions daily to determine the best course of action. In the meantime, it’s important to us that you know your voices are heard. Card Rewards We’ve been discussing feedback around a lack of incentive for players to go Flawless. We understand that some players have found the first few games to be more lucrative, which we’d love to shift to the later games. Early card token farming, as some would call it, is something that we are very interested in solving. We want to make sure that every Destiny player who wants to play Trials has something to show for it at the end of a weekend. Additionally, we’ve seen feedback that the Flawless chest isn’t comparable the rewards associated with grinding out Nightfalls. This is something that we’d love to improve upon. There are quite a few ways we could approach this, and we’re currently discussing what would be the best for Trials in the long run.[/quote] No, there's a lack of incentive for anyone to play Trials at all. The state of Trials is not going to improve, or even be changed at all short term? Bungie can't disable auto-deletion of tokens to make sure less-skilled playes aren't punished AS hard for being less skilled? Bungie can't even add a chance at upgrade materials (enhancement cores, prisms and ascendant shards) at the end of matches? Nightfalls are EASY; just PLAYING Trials is a GRUELING experience. These things should be the bare minimum ANYONE can get out of playing Trials, they are NOT rewards worthy of Flawless. Personaly, I think Bungie's already killed Trials. I've played it for two weekends, and got enough wins to turn in tokens on both occations; but I have honestly NOT enjoyed the experience. The game-mode is fine (except the lack of tie-rounds), but the fluff around it is GARBAGE. Bungie's lack of action further exacerbates the problem. I ALREADY noticed how Skill-creep has started to affect the playlist. If you look through the activities that I play, they are 99% Crucible, or related to getting guns for Crucible. Granted, I'm not an Ultra Sweat, but I'm pretty sure Trials was MADE for me; and I HATE it and what it does by design to the overall state of the Crucible and the community. Trials make people HATE Crucible and PvP; If you read the forums and you know I'm right. You can't make a mode that incentivize Ultra-skilled players to absolutely DESTROY less skilled players and then just... let it keep happening. That's a dick move Bungie; Don't be dicks. [b]I won't be playing this weekend, or the next, or the next until Bungie at least TRIES to fix it. [/b] If you want Adept weapons added to Trials; [b]Don't play Trials[/b] until that's added and be [b]VOCAL[/b] about WHY you won't play Trials. If you don't want to be farmed in Trials; [b]Don't play Trials[/b] until that's fixed and be [b]VOCAL[/b] about WHY you won't play Trials. If you want cheating reduced in Trials; [b]Don't play Trials[/b] until proper anti-cheats are added and be [b]VOCAL[/b] about WHY you won't play Trials. To anyone reading this, I actually urge you to NOT play this weekend. [b]The FASTER Trials drops in playerbase, the more urgent a fix from Bungie will be.[/b] You do you though.

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  • Yeah I don't play it. Don't want to be carried and also don't want to play cannonfodder, so I just ignore it. If everyone would so so that thinks similar Bungie would get their asses off and do something much quicker.

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  • Trials is not meant for casual play, it's meant for the more hardcore crowd. Always has been, always will be. If you believe that you are not ready for it, my advice is to stay out of it, practice, and analyze why you are not ready. If you are having trouble finding your fault or don't know what to practice, ask for help. Believe it or not, there are people in this community who will help you with this, just got to know where to look. Now I could be like everyone else and say get gud or make some snarky remark but I believe that constructive criticism is better.

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    • Wasting 114 tokens (and 7h) by being unable to turn them in has turned me away from Trials!

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    • Edited by baez320: 4/3/2020 5:41:02 PM
      Lmao. How long ago was Trials of the Nine taken out? One? Two years? I can't remember. Now, only 3 weeks after Trials of Osiris was brought back we are already seen this type of conversations? Bungie already with the mea culpa?! Bro... come on people. A lot of D1 vets called it months ago. We tried to warn all of you. I posted countless times "this is not gonna go the way y'all think" "trials won't save this game, neither improve it" I said. Many times. Very often my words were meant with sarcasm from fanboys. Well? It was painfully obvious what was going to happen. Bungie needs to eliminate completely the incentives to cheat and for account recoveries. THAT would be a start. When I run into 3 random (not same clan) players with abysmal stats playing Trials, and all of a sudden that is not reflected on the way they play, and this happens multiple times in a session, yeah, that is an instant turn off. The rest of the matches? Pure sweat fests. Many against players that advertise they either do Carrie's or are Twitch/YT streamers in their bio... But whatever. Low effort reply, I know, but I am tired of the bullshit. Sad. Sad. Sad. Trials of the Recov. Trials of the Streamer. Trials of the Cheater. GG Bungie.

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    • Even with increased loot reward incentives, I will never play trials. I just too bad at pvp to even try. I figure, that since I have never been able to get not forgotten, that I have no place in trials. My stats are already low enough to show how bad I am. And I can’t tell you how bad it feels to get xbox messages over several games either from the enemy team or my own team just because I am just bad. I can’t tell you how much guilt I feel every lost comp game I had. It doesn’t matter if they increase the reward amount. I’ll never play trials. No on would willingly accept me, and I already have earned enough hate, grief, and guilt through this game. I refuse to drag teammates down any longer. I’m wasting their time otherwise.

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        When I see anyone in quickplay with a flawless emblem, carry emblem, trials weapon, trials armor, or glowing trials armor they’re getting erentiled and bagged. If they’re playing quickplay Friday to Monday they’re getting erentiled, bagged, with an emote.

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        • The problem is its simply not enticing to most players even if adepts were added and token farming was fixed. Its a boring overhyped 3v3. Most players would get more enjoyment watching a streamer llay it than playing it themselves. Its just boring.

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        • Edited by King Cal1co: 4/3/2020 7:04:09 PM
          Don’t worry every streamer and carrier is going to make the actual population quit anyway. Being fodder for stream teams and carry teams will kill the population before adept rewards do

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          • Back in the Great Scarab Lord Cozmo's day we staged server crashes in the Cilithid. He remembers them. While we lack this resource we can refuse to play trials. I only hope this makes the difference.

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          • lol i forget that trials is even in game. was playing other, good games ( doom eternal). was gonna log in and play, then i seen the shit they call "rewards" and said nahh.

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            • I haven't played yet. I figured I'd wait and see how the first couple of weeks went. One of the best decisions of my life.

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            • Have to agree on these points.

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            • No one's really playing it anyways.

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            • I wont play cause i wont get any Loot if i dont go Flawless...

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              • Edited by MikeyMike: 4/5/2020 12:09:54 AM
                I can understand what the OP is saying here, but people aren’t going to abandon Trials completely despite all the issues it has. At least not yet. A big chunk of the remaining players queuing up to play Trials are likely streamers or folks that are highly skilled. Both groups make a living or earn extra cash doing carries and recovs. I’m not judging that either... it is what it is. Especially with what is going on in the world right now. But it’s also the reality of the situation. If people are earning money, they’re going to keep doing what they are doing and will not stop. For the lower skilled players, they’re either sitting in streams earning virtual currencies to try to win raffles for carries or paying outright for a recov. The majority of these people will not step into Trials themselves, or with a group of their friends. We’re seeing the results of this now. The amount of people engaging with the game mode is falling rapidly, and that trend will likely continue unless Bungie can do something to stop it. And fast. Because, eventually, when the game mode has nothing but sweats remaining, that’s when it will hit rock-bottom. Not hating, but let’s be honest, the vast majority of these sweaty players don’t want competitive games. They want to go in, farm stats, earn some cash and repeat. When they can no longer do that efficiently and consistently, Trials will be probably go on “hiatus” (again), it will get some imaginary improvements (again) then be sold back to us a couple years later (again).

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              • Edited by NigorosK: 4/4/2020 4:14:27 PM
                Some people seem to try to compensate life issues with a gear set in a video game? Why are you even playing trials? Gear? Weapon? Giving hugs at the tower to players you will never help!? I guess D2 community is nothing close to D1’s. Or is the world changing? Pfff trials are so “has been” anyway! One-shooting lanes or invisible aping shotguns is so cheap pvp experience/challenge. Those streams are so boring, it’s like a souk/secondary market.

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              • I don’t want adept weapons added to trials. So should I play it? Even though it’s trash?

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                • Funny thing, bungie stated back in d1 the lighthouse isn’t for everyone. So, I think they’re happy only the hardcore players are playing right now. Business plan success!!

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                • I won't be playing it at all. It's never been worth the aggravation.

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                • "Please dont llay trials" Way ahead of you. Havent once set foot in that overhyped 3v3.

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                • all the casuals are all ready gone. nothing but sweats left. ive gone against guys with 50+ flawless all ready. why keep playing?

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                • We played a few cards and the cheats rolled out, just ruined any incentive to play the game mode and then we went to survival and bamm!!!! New account testing out his aim bot in survival, so I am just done for the weekend with destiny. Will not do bungie's job and pull together all the evidence for 300k people who download aim bot for this game. A simple report should suffice in game?

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                • For every person on here that reads this and possibly follows this request, there will be a hundred+ ppl playing trials that didn't read it lol

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                  • Done! Youre, welcome?

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                  • Like I keep saying over and over, forget Trials. The core of all PvP in this game is flawed. Great rewards and whatnot will not fix the misery inflicted while playing to get those rewards. Make the PvP actually enjoyable. If it’s fun we’re not gonna really care about the rewards because it’s FUN TO PLAY.

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                  • Well, I am a less skilled player and I already stopped playing Trials the first weekend. And I am neither sad nor is it a pain point for me. I accept the fact I'm not good enough for it, there are many other activities in the game which can fill my precious time. Trials were not meant for me to enjoy. Period. For all the hardcore PvPers I sincerely hope Bungie will take the measures you are asking for. Good luck!

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