Okay so let's break this down not including dailys:
Pve milestones:
LW raid: 5 powerful drops
Sotp raid: 3 powerful drops
BA forges: 3 powerful drops
Weekly strikes
Weekly story missions
Flashpoint
Dreaming city: mission,blind well, ascendant challenge, bounties all powerful drops
Spider bounty
Ikora package
Hawthorne package
Prime engrams
The reckoning: this is pve
Pvp milestones:
Crucible call to arms
Gambit
Gambit prime
Hmmm yeah sooo much pvp there.
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You don't get it 90 % of quest involves pvp and the only reason THE ONLY REASON is to make pvp viable. If bungie had any real confidence in their pvp they wouldn't force pve players into it . And they do force it on pve players they see the numbers every day and netease sees those numbers too and if bungie don't inflate those numbers then netease begins to question if bungie was really worth 100 million dollars investment.
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There's that word again "forced" ypur not forced to do it it's optional no one makes you go into the activity. You don't have to do those quests if you hate pvp so much. I also don't get why there's so much hate around the pvp steps. Pvp can be great. I love testing certain weapons out in pvp. Like yesterday I got a outlaw kill clip nightshade took it into a strike for pve test and then a game of crucible. Didn't care if I won or lost just went in to test my new toy. Pvp can be hell I've been stomped many a time but I've also had some amazing games. But like I've said if you hate pvp that much no one is making you do it.
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Yes they are being forced to play pvp 90% of quest involves pvp in some form or another . You know it , I know it and bungie knows it that if they didn't involve pvp into quest then you would never see a pve player within a hundred miles of pvp . They NEED pve players to play pvp bungie knows that streamers need moving targets or they leave the game , they know youtubers need pve players to play pvp or they will leave the game but most important is they NEED pve players to play pvp or netease takes their 100 million dollars and fines someone else to make pvp games for them .
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*removes tinfoil hat* Shhh brother you don't want bungie to know that YOU KNOW! After all it's just one big conspiracy man! *Puts back on tinfoil hat*
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I just cannot even.... what? I can't even justify a proper response you hqve me stumped sir. Streamers make up such a minute population of the community... Also just to clarify on all these posts I'm not being a pvp fan boy or anything I just want to know why you all feel forced to play an optional activity in an optional game as an optional pass time.
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Streamers may be a a small group of people but they are more important than all the base put together. When d2 had the 4v4 pvp I played and had some fun and even enjoyed it BUT along comes streamers and you tubers who say this is not how WE want pvp what does bungie do ? They capitulate to the streamers and you tubers and what happens ? Pve players stop playing pvp and walk away . Now pve players complain about pvp and how stressful it is and how all quest are now forced on them because streamers and you tubers have to have moving targets or they will leave the game . All this just for a small number . What would be nice is if the pvp players supported us pve players all we ask is that exotic quest have a option out of pvp that's all we are asking for is it so hard to understand we don't want to be a part of that side of the game .
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Your missing the point, the focus is on pvp, it needs to stop and forcing us to play pvp for exotics has been a problem since d1. Why u think everyone quit playing? Bc bungie focuses on pvp far too much. Get a timed event it’s pvp, right now bungie is not making the pve not pvp crowd happy, time to stop focusing on pvp and start giving this community the pve experience we deserve.
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Your initial statement was that you're forced to play it which is false. The last two exotic quests have been for tlw and thorn which are iconic d1 pvp weapons. They are mainly only utilised in pvp so if you don't like pvp why do you want to pursue a pvp utilised gun when it's effectively just going to sit unused in the vault.
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Not posting bc of weapons, there is a bigger picture.