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Edited by The Third Man 1:
11/6/2017 9:01:20 AM
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WARFRAME IS PAY TO WIN!!!
Don't worry guys, the title is bait.
Honestly though, a lot of people seem to have this misconception that WarFrame is pay to win, it seems to be the only argument brought up a lot of the time, which begs the question.
Do those that spout this nonsense actually play the game? Or did they see other users say it and followed suit like a sheep?
If you are interested in learning the facts, WarFrame is not pay to win. WarFrame is unique, in that although you can pay real money for the premium currency and use that to buy guns and frames, you can get that currency for free at any point, not to mention everything bar a few cosmetics can gained ingame for free. It gives the impression that to a new player who has neither time nor energy to learn the game, that they will ultimately have to pay to, well, win. I have no issue with you or someone else to put some money in the game, it's free and it's a good game. But paying any money in this game does have some downfalls. It removes a portion of the grind depending on what you purchase, this is crucial as a lot of WarFrames way of acquiring guns and frames is to grind for materials or blueprints, and buying a frame may remove several days off of your overall play time.
Don't get me wrong though, if you want to spend money, go ahead. I'm just outlining how WarFrame does [u]not[/u] fall under the malpractice of pay to win.
If you want to have a sensible debate about this in down below go ahead, just be aware that spouting "muh pay to win" or "muh destiny is better" will probably be looked down on as being imbecilic.
G'day folks.
[spoiler]maybe I should do this more often[/spoiler]
[spoiler]obligatory trending edit[/spoiler]
Lets get some debates going! But seriously don't say any shit like "muh destiny is better" like some already have, it's just stupid, try and find points to support or destroy mine and others points.
Edit: someone was adamant that because I didn't mention the grind that my point is invalid essentially. So here:
WarFrame has a grind, a large grind that is much higher than Destinys or most other games. This constitutes to its difficulty. But the grind isn't so much that you have to spend money. If you can't handle the grind without spending money I would recommend you uninstall the game as you clearly do not have the time nor energy to play the game.
Actually, I shouldn't need to mention the grind because those that read this should already be knowledgeable about the game and therefore the grind. If you don't know about these then you really shouldn't be commenting on this as you don't know much about the game or haven't played enough to form an educated opinion.
The grinds big, yes. Bigger than Destinys, bigger than Destiny 2. But not impossible. Try just putting a bit of work into the game.
Or maybe grinding games just aren't your forte. At which point you probably have a biased opinion
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5 RepliesI'm honestly thinking that the people who say Warframe is Pay-to-Win either: haven't played a pay-to-win game, or they have never played Warframe. Warframe isn't a pay-to-win game. At most, I would say that it's pay-to-look good, and even then, that's loosely putting it. Warframe does have a microtransactions portion of its game called the Market, and it does offer things that will get others ahead in the game, but it does not guarantee someone will "pay-to-win". When someone buys something from the Market, they can get a weapon or a warframe, but that warframe is no different than someone who grinds for the Warframe ingame (which, with Nekros, grinding is irrelevant with his Desecrate ability). DE also releases "Gift of the Lotus" events frequently enough that people will have enough golden and blue potatoes to not worry about running out of space for mods. If I had to give it to the people here who say "Warframe is a pay-to-win game" some defense though, the learning curve for Warframe is easily more difficult than the Destiny series. The beginning of the game is not meant for everyone, and it usually weeds out the less skilled players from the ones who want to learn to play the game. After a less-skilled player (like me!) gets past the learning curve, the game becomes absurdly simple to play. For the more impatient players who will refuse to sit down and learn to play the game, or sit down to grind the game, they can buy a warframe or weapon to just get past the grinding barrier/ Even with this though [u]Warframe is not pay-to-win[/u]. I already mentioned this in a different thread, but free-to-play players can get some of the cosmetic stuff for free if they simply grind the game. It took a while, but when Baro Ki'Teer came out with Primed Flow recently, I dumped all the ducats, endo, and credits I had to get as many maxed out Primed Flows as I could and I sold them in the Trading chat. I made an equivalent to $50 real-world money in platinum in 5 minutes, and this is me as a player of Warframe who has not spent a single cent in this game. I went to town in the market buying cosmetics and colors, and now, I'm saving up platinum again to get that gundum-looking Nekros skin. But, back to the main point: The people who say Warframe is a pay-to-win game are separated into either of these two categories: They have never played Warframe in their life, or they have never played a pay-to-win game in their life. There's no gray zone in this, because I guarantee that anyone else who has played Warframe at least 100 hours will say the exact same thing I have said. On Steam alone, I have a little over 600 hours put into Warframe, and I've played it since before Specters of the Rail. Before Steam, I had only about 10-20 hours on Warframe. I know for sure that [u]there has never[/u] been a "pay-to-win" aspect anywhere in this game. It could change in the future, but I can't see into the future.
