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That is how it has ALWAYS worked when it comes to expansions. TDB did it, HoW did it and now TTK will do it.
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  • wait what? There is no gear in either expansion that is better than vanilla. Only stat that has any improvement is light.

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  • Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk: 7/26/2015 3:33:36 AM
    Yes.....which makes it an upgrade over Vanilla considering when it comes to the armor the light is the only thing that matters

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  • You may be right. But that doesn't mean it [i][b]has[/b][/i] to be that way.

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  • Except it DOES have to be that way. Otherwise there would be no incentive to play. Why would you want to progress forward if all you are going to do is use the same gear forever and ever. There is no incentive to grind and there is no incentive to play.

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  • The incentive to play is new weapons and gear not the -blam!-ing light level,,,people still grind for shaders that dont do anything you savvy that cowboy

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  • That depends. You see, if you have to grind for an object that ascends the weapon, the play value is not necessarily lost.

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  • Yes but they won't allow that to happen. Its quite obvious that they are intentionally moving away from the old perks, introducing new ones and nerfing the most widely used ones. They don't want people using the same gear forever and ever. They are not going to put all this time and effort into these new weapon perks and manufacturers when everyone knows taht if given the chance people will continue using guns Fatebringer until the end of time.

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  • Edited by coppertop1124: 7/26/2015 12:44:28 AM
    The key here is that if they make the new weapons and gear desirable with better stats/perks than the current/old stuff, people will [i]want[/i] to pursue and use the new stuff. If the new crop is lackluster and just garbage, ala HoW, people will not move on. The onus is on Bungie to create compelling gear, not for us to just up and leave our tried and true gear just for the sake of false progression. Im not saying i wont move on, but only if its worth it. If they dont allow us to ascend our current gear and the TTK weapons are in line with the sh1tty HoW weapons, i will be be one pissed off, very disgruntled "entitled gamer". And im sure a LOT of other people will be too. Im reserving final judgement for the drop because i like what i see so far, but there is a lot of time till release. Weve seen a lot of things change and not always for the better.

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  • I will miss my shotguns 😟

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