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originally posted in:Mjolnir Battle Tactics
Edited by Papa John:
8/13/2013 11:01:28 PM
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Where do you rank Halo 3: ODST? All of the games?
So I suddenly had a desire to replay Halo: ODST. I also tend to drop the "3" from the title of the game, as I think it does a disservice to it. This is most definitely not just an expansion. The campaign is a solid 8 hours on Heroic while completing the side story.
This time through I made sure to collect all of the audio logs. I've only ever played through the game once or twice back in 2009. After going through it again and piecing together Sadie's story, I have to say that the campaign in ODST is one of my favourites from the entire series. I might go so far as to say that ODST's campaign is second or third after Halo: CE and Halo 3. As a whole, I'd rank the game 4th after the original trilogy.
What is clear to me is just how vastly superior the campaign of ODST is to the campaigns of Reach and Halo 4. Halo 4's campaign was sadly disappointing. It lacked interesting side characters, direction, and introduced a lackluster environment and enemy. Halo Reach had a few great levels but failed to achieve any type of emotional connection between the player and characters. There were too many Spartans and not enough time was spent making the player care about any one of them. Whereas the ODSTs in The Squad each had distinguishable faces, voices, personalities, and hints of backstories, the Spartans in Reach did not. Perhaps the only thing I'd say Reach did right over ODST was having each character's outfit/armor visually distinct.
As an overall package, I'd rank the games:
1. Halo
2. Halo 3
3. Halo 2
4. Halo: ODST
5. Halo 4
6. Halo: Reach
For Campaigns:
1. Halo
2. Halo: ODST
3. Halo 3
4. Halo 2
5. Halo: Reach
6. Halo 4
*I don't really count Halo Wars. It was a good game with great cinematics. Unfortunately, I have a very hard time fitting it into the canon. I can't swallow a flood outbreak twenty years before the events of Halo.
Thoughts? Where would you rank ODST? Where would you rank all the games in the series?
[i] Papa John [/i]
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Campaign: ODST Reach Halo 4 Halo 3 Halo CE Never played Halo 2 Never played Spartan Assault Halo Wars isn't working. In all: Halo Reach Halo Wars/Halo 4 Halo ODST Halo CE/Halo 3
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Overall, I'd have to rank the games separately. Halo One Campaign: Awesome, one of the best FPSs to date, and very intriguing. Multiplayer: Fun, but PC did give more or an experience than the console version. Overall: 9 Halo 2 Campaign: A nice, long sequel which gave an excellent experience with the crossover Arbiter/Chief missions. Multiplayer: In my opinion, the best multiplayer any game so far had to offer, which actually took skill to level up. Overall: 9.6 Halo 3 Campaign: Beautiful, the story was wholly awesome, but a little short [for my tastes]. Multiplayer: Same ranking system as Halo 2, but the maps weren't as great. Forge: An excellent addition to the series, but it was hard to use at first....either way, it quickly became one of the greatest gametypes. Overall: 8.85 Halo 3 ODST Campaign: It was good, but had massive story flaws. It was fun to just run around at night though. Firefight: I would have just liked ODST multiplayer...I paid 30$ for this ( half of the game, or as I say, the experience ). Overall: 7 Halo Reach Campaign: Aesthetically amazing, the storyline was pretty well executed. Multiplayer: Felt like Halo 2, with sprint added...and without a rank system ;_; Forge: Amazing Improvement. The Community made it even better. Overall: 8.75 Halo 4 Campaign: Felt exactly like Halo 3...which makes sense, considering it was a sequel. Multiplayer: The Arena aspect got changed to loadout ;_; Other than that, it was pretty good, especially with the addition of Dominion and Regicide. Forge: A step backward, but the DLC map did add a palette for building. Overall: 8.5
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1 ReplyReply to other thread: [quote]Halo CE- 9.5/10 Campaign Gameplay- 10/10 Multiplayer Gameplay- 10/10 Soundtrack- 9.5/10 Story (without EU)- 9/10 Story (with EU)- 9.5/10 Halo 2- 5.5/10 CG- 6.5/10 MG- 5/10 Soundtrack- 9.5/10 Story- 9 - 9.5/10 (depends on what you consider it as) Halo 3- 7/10 CG- 6.5/10 MG- 7/10 Soundtrack- 9/10 Story- 5/10 Halo Wars- 6.5/10 -Not fit to answer gameplay, don't really play a lot of RTS, inexperienced- Soundrack- 9/10 Story- 7/10 Halo 3 ODST- 6.5/10 Campaign Gameplay- 8/10 Soundtrack- 11/10 Story (Core)- 7/10 Story (Extended)- 9.5/10 Halo Reach- 5/10 Campaign Gameplay- 5/10 Multiplayer Gameplay- 4/10 Soundtrack- 9/10 Story- 4.5/10 Halo 4- 5.5/10 Campaign Gameplay- 5/10 Multiplayer Gameplay- 5/10 Soundtrack- 9.5/10 Story (Core)- 9/10 Story (Extended)- 10/10 ~5 is average (Halo Reach, Halo 2, Halo 4) ~6 is above average (Halo 3 ODST, Halo Wars) ~7 is good (Halo 3) ~9/10 is incredible (Halo CE) People are going to see this and say "LOLWAT 5/10" but the scores are overall ratings. Each Halo game has at least one 9.5-10/10 under its belt. Every game is fun in at least one aspect.[/quote] [quote]Well let me list off a few points about why I like the game, to show you it's not just nostalgia, at least for me. -Weapon sandbox that was useful all across the board. Every weapon. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNI6Zv-fZwM]Including the two that people like to hate on the most.[/url] -[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyYwLCDyCU]No bullsh1t hitboxes, bullet magnetism, or fifty foot melee lunge.[/url] -Story that, while good on its own, is made exemplary by Silentium's contribution. Plus the Cortana/Chief relationship really shines after Halo 4's events. Take the beginning of "Two Betrayals" for instance, where Cortana is the rational thinker and Chief is acting off impulse (in a Freudian manner, Chief is the id and Cortana is the ego). Now look in the mission "Composer" from Halo 4. You have [I]Chief[/I] as the rational entity and Cortana being the impulsive one. It's a brilliant role reversal, and makes me love both Halo CE and Halo 4's stories so much more. -Awesome soundtrack. I mean, you can't listen to Under Cover of Night, Covenant Dance, The Lost Muse, and the fracking Halo theme and say that the soundtrack was lacklustre. Seriously. -AI that was legitimately reactive, aggressive, and above all fair. In Halo CE, the AI would actually react to you and hunt you down. The enemies don't just snap to your location and spam their Plasma Rifles at you like they do in Reach and 4. Nor do they sit there with their thumbs up their a$$es like Halo 3. Case in point- the mission Halo. Go up to the [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eLYJAsZmbA]cliffside[/url] and slowly close in. Snipe a few enemies while you do so. Watch the enemies completely change their layout as you venture closer. They react to you, which is why the Flood in CE was so brilliant. They elicit reactions from you (though that's not to say they're unreactive. Especially if you ditch the shotgun, run and gun Flood combat is excellent), meaning first time players were completely taken aback by the change in playstyle. It's why you people hated the Library. Stuck with your tried and true Flood formula, you guys were constantly trying to draw the Flood back instead of experimenting with them. Try something new, and you'll find that The Library becomes [I]much[/I] more enjoyable. It was a brilliant role reversal. -Massive levels that took all types of playstyles into account. Just look at Assault on the Control Room. Initially you might think of it as an incredibly slow level, but just take a look at everything you did! Mid range, run and gun, CQC, vehicular assault, sniping, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uw4QPiq04E]massive[/url] army battles, stealth, and whatever combination of those you could dream of. -Some of the best multiplayer maps in the series. Blood Gulch. Sidewinder. Damnation. Hang 'Em High. Rat Race. Prisoner. Need I say more? And, above all, an enduring community that stays strong with it even today. Interfacing with the CE campaign community is [I]worlds[/I] away from the d1ckery here and over at Waypoint. They're such laid back, friendly people with determination on a level of which I have never seen in my life (see the "Tower to Tower" trick). And while the online community for CE PC may not exactly be stellar, [url=http://www.youtube.com/user/HaloCe3Live]just check out Custom Edition.[/url] Halo CE is easily my favorite of the series, and were it not for the perfection of Turok 2, it would claim the title of being my favorite game of all time. Despite no Halo game coming near it (IMO), I still love the series. Regardless of the quality of the games overall, Halo is easily one of the most enduring stories I have ever come across. Even as Destiny appears, Bungie moves on, 343 takes over, and the gaming world changes, I am sure in my bones that Halo will remain. And you know why that is? Why it has that staying power? Because at its heart, it's the fantasy you had as a child. Being the against all odds superhero that takes down everything in his path for the right thing. But at the same time it's become a mature examination into what the challenges of being that (the "against all odds hero") would be. Similar to how The Dark Knight brings out the inner kid in me while still being an insightful study into today's societal norms, Halo has evolved into questioning the purpose of life and humanity's role in the galaxy while still bringing the inner superhuman within me. Despite my thoughts on the quality of Halo prior to CE, Halo's not going anywhere for me. [I]No way.[/I][/quote]
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I'd rank it the exact same as you - none of the Halo games have matched the epic space opera of the first game, but ODST was a damn fine game.
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Halo ce: 4/5- story was great Halo 2 4/5- I liked playing as the arbiter Halo 3- 5/5- favorite game besides boarder lands 2 or skyrim Halo 3 odst-3.5/5- gameplay was fun Halo reach 3/5- loved the multiplayer until 343 took over Halo 4 3.5/5 liked the story
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As a whole 1. Halo 2 2. Halo CE 3. Halo 4 (Come at me) 4. Halo Reach 5. Halo 3 ODST 6. Halo 3 Campaign 1. Halo CE 2. Halo 3 ODST 3. Halo 2 4. Halo 4 (Again, come at me) 5. Halo Reach 6. Halo 3 Matchmaking 1. Halo 2 2. Halo CE 3. Halo 4 (Do I need to type it?) 4. Halo Reach 5. Halo 3
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6 RepliesWhile I can't bring myself to rank any of the Halo games, I am very fond of ODST, especially after I found all of the audio logs. The entire game has a very unique feel to it. The night scenes are very dark and lonely, and the score just makes that stand out even more. I enjoyed playing the game even more on solo late at night. It gets a lot less credit than it deserves, and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks so. Also, they killed off The Didact WAY too quickly.
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Overall? It would be ranked like this: 1.) Halo CE 2.) Halo 3 3.)Halo Reach/ODST 4.) Halo 4 I am sad to say that I have not yet played halo 2 so I can't rank it
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It seems strange that you ranked 3 higher overall. ODST has the better campaign, and all of halo 3's multilayer. Oh, and firefight.
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Reach was by far superior to ODST mostly because it had a real multiplayer. ODST campaign was fun though. I just don't know why everybody on this site hates Reach, I loved it.
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[b]Campaign[/b] Halo CE ODST Halo 3 Halo 2 (would have beat 3 if the game didn't get cut off) Reach Halo 4 [b]Multiplayer[/b] Halo 3 Halo CE Halo 2 Reach Halo 4 ODST (not present) [b]Overall (I assume this means multiplayer and other features)[/b] Reach (Forge, theater, file shares, screenshots, Bnet features, matchmaking campaign, Firefight) Halo 3 (Forge, theater, file shares, screenshots, Bnet features) Halo 2 (First Xbox Live game with true Matchmaking/custom games) Halo 4 (Forge, theater, file shares, screenshots, Waypoint features, Spartan Ops - [i]Many of these features not present on original release[/i]) Halo CE (Multiplayer) ODST (Firefight)
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It is my personal favorite Campaign was Halo 3 ODST, and it has my favorite firefight and weapons. I would rank it 1st.
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Hate me if you want but i didn't enjoy Halo CE 's campaign as much as the others, even 4
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By Campaign: Halo 3 Halo 3: ODST Halo 2 Halo Reach Halo CE Halo 4
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Overall: Halo: CE Halo 2 Halo: Reach ODST Halo 4 Halo 3
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Campaign: Halo 3 Halo 2 Halo:ODST Halo 4 Halo: reach
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Campaign: ODST CE 4 2 3 Reach
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[b]From All[/b] 1. Halo CE 2. Halo 3 3. Halo 2 4. Halo 3: ODST 5. Halo Wars 6. Halo Reach 7. Halo 4 [b]Campaign[/b]: 1. Halo 2 2. Halo: ODST 3. Halo 3 4. Halo CE 5. Halo Wars 6. Halo: Reach 7. Halo 4
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I really enjoyed the ODST campaign. I wouldn't know where to rank it against the other games, but I will say that I still have a major soft spot for the superintendent. He is one of my favorite fictional AI's. So much so that I found it difficult to go back to New Mombasa after all the audio logs were collected and the campaign was completed. The city felt empty and incomplete without him.
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1 ReplyCampaign: ODST Halo 2 Halo 3 / CE Reach Overall: Halo 3 Halo 2 / ODST Halo CE Reach
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I like Halo 4 more than ODST
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Campaign wise; I rate it as 1st.
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ODST transcended campaign standards to me, so I don't like comparing it to the others. But if it had firefight matchmaking, it could have been the best overall.
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3 RepliesODST had the best campaign for me, but H3 is my overall favourite Halo game. If ODST expanded on its multiplayer, there'd be no doubt that it would surpass 3.
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Campaign: CE 2 ODST 3 4 Reach
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For campaigns alone Halo 2 Halo CE Halo 3 ODST Reach Halo 4
