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This idea leaves out 80% of the playerbase (The people that don't raid). I'm sorry, I don't like raiding, I don't want to raid, but I do like to do nightfalls, weekly strikes and daily stories. Are you saying I shouldn't be allowed? This selfish nonsense spewed by elitist raiders is killing the community. Hang your head in shame.
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  • Progression is the name of the game. I'd you stagnate yourself from maxing out you're cheating yourself.

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  • People who came to this game from cod are killing the community. This game was built for people who like rpgs. Not for fps whores

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  • Who plays cod here? What?

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  • If you dont raid, max level is irrelevant.

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  • That's irrelevant. I don't care about the level of vendor gear as long as it keeps up with the nightfall/heroic levels.

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  • It shouldn't keep up. Play the damn game

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  • Why shouldn't it? Because you'd be insulted if it out leveled the gear you don't use? You're an ass.

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  • Next you're going to want elemental damage primary weapons to drop outside of the raid.

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  • What? No I don't... I just want to keep up to the required level to partake in activities! Good lord dude...

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  • Yes No I'm not.

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  • More "you have to raid" nonsense. So essentially we will all be 2 levels below nightfalls. Great compromise.

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  • Vangaurd light 21 21 vangaurd 21 vangaurd 21 vangaurd 33 exotic 99 total That's level 28. The nightfall before dark below was 28 After the dark below 21 21 21 42 exotic 105 light That's level 29. With no raid gear. If you honestly have no interest whatsoever in doing the raids, which is the entire focus of this game if you haven't noticed, I'm sorry.

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  • If you haven't noticed, the raid is a sliver of the total game, you idiot. And 29 is underleveled. What are you talking about.

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  • And it's the main focus, and crotas end hard is 33 but the level cap is32 so you're under leveled but you don't hear us crying about it. Stop being a baby dude.

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  • Okay, you have a very valid point and it may be that he didn't take that into consideration. It didn't cross [u]my[/u] mind to think about the nightfall/weeklies and I liked the idea (except the drop rates plummeting even further) until you brought up that point. It's also people who hate on others that ruin communities you know. Now, ways to deal with the nightfall could be to lower the level of nightfalls so everyone has the chance to do it, or if they wanted to push for raids (I know, it's not nice to push raids on people) they could have it slightly higher than regular gear can get you (two levels higher or so) so that you [u]have[/u] to raid, even just a little bit. And to give a fair shake at people who raided a lot they could have a separate playlist for the nightfall/weeklies with the only differences being level and the loot table changes from ascended materials to radiant materials.

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  • You don't like raiding? That's the entire point of this game is raiding... The game is built around leveling up and gearing up to run the raid and defeat the final boss. If you don't like that maybe this game isn't for you. So far it looks like you will continue to get your way and destiny will always let you level up through the vanguard to get another level up, I'm glad crotas end hard mode is level 34 enemies, keeps out the rifraff

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  • No raid, no gear. Dafuq kind of game do you think this is? Stop being a scrub.

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  • Yep. People like you are why the community sucks. Grow up. It's a video game, so your elitism is unfounded.

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  • When everyone is special no one is. Not everybody gets to have the best gear, otherwise it's nothing special. Games of this nature typically drop expansions and without them you can't even play the game at all anymore, be lucky ppl get to keepnplaying online without the expansion. Developers have payroll, expansions pay the payroll. Don tg buy the dlc, don't get included in the future content. It's simple mmorpg economics. Be glad this game doesn't come with a monthly subscription service fee on top of the expansions. You're an entitled whiner who wants everything handed to you in a competitive game. This isn't borderlands where you get to play by yourself and get all the cool stuff by looking up how to do it online and finding all of the cool secret weapons. It's a competitive online multi-player rpg. The destiny community is awesome. Whiners like you are the problem

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  • Competitive game? What? It's a cooperative online shooter. We aren't competing to gain gear... Are you serious? No, it's people like you that ruin the community. Putting yourself above other players and openly looking down on others. It's disgusting. We all purchased destiny to enjoy ourselves, so yes I am entitled to still enjoy myself. Your ideas exclude players like me.

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  • I'm not understanding your complaint about my idea or how it leaves anybody out of anything. Reread my post Figure out what somebody is left out of. Reply to me and I will do the light level math for you so you can see that with my method less people will be left out of things than under the current system

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  • So you're saying you can't enjoy yourself if you Dont get to have all of the best gear? That's rather childish

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  • this has NOTHING to do with gear. This has to do with the ability to enjoy the activities in the game. If I'm under-leveled for everything, I'm not able to enjoy NON-raiding activities. Raiding is not a prerequisite to end game, it's the final test. I already understand that I don't have the best weapons and armor, and I'm ok with it. The only thing I'm worried about is level. Raid gear still out levels vendor gear, and raid primaries are generally better than vendor primaries.

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  • Is that a problem? I seriously don't understand what the issue is here. I'm only suggestingbthey raid the light level of raid gear...

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