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Edited by Crimson:
1/29/2015 3:32:13 PM
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Fat & Beautiful, or just fat?
This link is talking about Tess Holliday, who is a plus-sized model (size 20 American, UK 24).
I pose this question to you.... do you agree with her message?
I, personally, love that she promotes self-love and not self-hate. If we all should be so lucky to feel comfortable in our bodies. However, part of me feels like she's also promoting something unhealthy (obesity).
What's your opinion? DISCUSS!
[b]EDIT:[/b] Do you think that if she were a MAN, that society would be saying "love yourself"? I feel like there's a huge double standard here when it comes to males and females being happy with their body sizes.
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When I was in Disney World, there was a morbidly obese woman on the bus, and a gentleman smiled and, er, courteously gave up his seat so that she could have proper amount of seating proportionate to her body. Okay, she's not disabled, she just refuses to take care of herself. Goodness, Florida...
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Obesity is not healthy, nor is being very skinny. The amount of fat on a person's body should be kept in moderation.
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1 ReplyI don't find obesity attractive. Obesity isn't healthy. I understand a good portion of people struggle with genetics or certain conditions, and it's not directed to them, but people need to start taking better care of themselves. Seriously. There's absolutely no reason to ever be above 300 pounds, even 220 is a stretch.
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I won't say some slightly overweight people can't be attractive, but I honestly can't see myself dating someone chubby. Probably because I'm a damn skeleton. Obese people can be proud and happy with themselves all they want, more power to them, but it makes me sad to know people who think obesity is anything admirable actually exist.
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1 ReplyObesity is a health issue, and it's a serious one. But the conversation about it tends to center around self-image and self-worth, and the fact that obese people should not feel good about either of those things. And we associate obesity with negative character traits and lifestyles. So, as long as obesity is framed in these terms, it's going to hurt our ability to talk about the only part of it that matters: health. I see "activists" like Tess Holiday as a reactionary or counterbalancing force. I mean, "All About That Bass" would have no lyrics if fat people hadn't been told that they should feel bad about they way they look or that nobody would find them attractive.
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I'd also like to point out that snuggling with a [i]slightly[/i] chubby chick is like the best thing ever. Just. Like. So that's clear. It's still not healthy, but, like. Totally awesome.
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5 RepliesShe's comfortable within her own skin and I can admire/respect that. She's got nice facial features that I would consider "pretty". Though I will confess/admit (with a little self-shame) that when I look at a full-body pic of her, her head seems small and on an unconscious level (or even conscious), it gives me a double-take due to my sense of proportion when it comes to the human form. Just like how artists intentionally draw super-heroes with non-typical proportions in order to give an altered impression, her head/body proportions give me a subconscious reaction/impression. With that said, she's certainly capable of modeling clothes for a particular demographic and her face, self-confidence, and other factors combine to make her a reasonable choice as a model.
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Edited by Ultron: 1/29/2015 9:17:39 PMPeople love to cling to the idea that "you can be whatever you want" is a free pass to becoming rich and famous without any effort. The line should be, "you can be anything you want as long as you have the passion and dedication". With that out of the way, I'd like to point out that being a model is like any other major career. Just like an artist, it takes years and years of practice and learning to become a good model. The biggest misconception in the world is that artist are born with a natural talent. This could not be further from the truth. No one is born with natural talent, but most great artist are born with a passion to develop and hone their craft. Their passion not only helps them endure the lifetime dedication to their craft, but it makes them eager to improve their abilities. Sure genetics may make it easier to have an model quality body, but there are plenty of models who have bad genes, and have overcame this fact with hard work. If we take the same mindset this woman has towards modeling and apply to the art industry, we would see a lot of Deviantart quality works being passed off as the next MonaLisa. TL;DR these beauty standards aren't impossible to achieve. They just require years and years of work to achieve.
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1 ReplyI only approve of fat if it is spelled with a ph
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While I realize some people fetishize overweight women, it isn't really a good idea. Don't get me wrong, humiliating someone is also not the way to go in terms of health.
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3 RepliesA persons body weight and aesthetics shouldn't be in the same phrase. We should be more concerned about a persons body weight and their health.
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5 RepliesFat is only beautiful in the form of tits (without its over abundance, of course).
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Edited by fraggumz: 1/29/2015 8:44:03 PMim already tired of hearing about this chick. she will fade away soon after her 15 minutes of fame are over. fat is not mentally or physically healthy so we should not be telling everyone "be whatever the -blam!- you want to be" like that horrible "all about that base" song does. Of course there are lazy sensitive people so i guess we have to cater to their feelings. bring the hate.
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Obesity is a disorder, incredibly unhealthy and is life threatening. I see nothing beautiful about that.
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I mean.. if she's healthy, good for her. Idk how big a size 20 is, but as long as her weight isn't a health detriment more power to her. I'm not attracted to people that are much larger than I am though.
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Obesity is unhealthy
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She is actually a size yuck.
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2 RepliesI hate all this "eff your beauty standards" shit, some people are attractive and others aren't, jealous (and generally ugly) people want to redefine beauty but their denial of the facts doesn't change them, they are still ugly. [spoiler]btw, that girl in the picture isn't ugly so she is kind of a hypocrite by saying "eff your beauty standards"[/spoiler]
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17 RepliesCalling her "plus sized" implies she's abnormal, please check your privilege, scum.
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Upperclass BumWe were where werewolves were - old
I think people are too concerned about the size of other people... It's their body, not yours. However big or small they choose to be is up to them and rarely has any impact on others. -
2 RepliesEdited by AyaYumi: 1/29/2015 7:19:57 PMI laugh at the whole "Fat is Beautiful" because people actually think it's.. beautiful and want to boast about it. It's unhealthy and to me I don't find it attractive. If she works out as much as she says and "cooks healthy" then she wouldn't be as big as she is. Her take on the word healthy isn't so.. healthy, apparently.
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12 RepliesWhen the zombie apocalypse comes along at least the zombies will be slow.
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Should a chain smoker be proud of their lung cancer? [spoiler]no.[/spoiler] [spoiler]smell what I'm stepping in?[/spoiler] [spoiler]pickin up what I'm layin down?[/spoiler] [spoiler]ya heard?[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesIs she actually obese?
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Edited by Legend To None: 1/29/2015 6:52:34 PMJust fat. There are chubby people with good proportions at a young age, but not fat people.
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My views are kind of split on this subject. In one sense, obesity is linked to so many lifestyle diseases. There is no such thing as "healthy at any weight" and I think the movement is bullshit. Even if vitals are cf checking in normal now, they will not forever. Excess body weight creates a huge strain on the CNS, cardiovascular system, and the musculoskeletal system. However, by no means do obese or overweight individuals deserve to be treated sub-human. They deserve the same respect and love that anyone does. People can be physically attractive at varying sizes, but it does not mean they are healthy. Stay healthy and we retain beauty longer. It's a simple truth.
