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1/22/2015 9:21:11 AM
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"Its been long enough since the dark below released that if you're still not 32 it's your fault. Either you havnt run the raid enough to get the gear to hit 32, so you're useless. That or you don't have the shards to upgrade your gear which means you either still havnt had enough raid practice or done enough bounties to hit eris rank 4. Maybe people with 1 character might not have hit 32 yet for legit reasons, but if you have 1 character you're probably not dedicated enough, and again don't have enough raid completions under your belt to be usefull as anything but a meat shield"
This seems to be a good example of the negative attitude towards anyone under level 32, so allow me to make a proper response;
Maybe, just maybe people didn't buy TDB the second it came out, maybe people only got the game for Christmas, maybe people actually have real lives and other things to do than pour their time into the endless and in the grand scale of things, meaningless timesink that is Destiny. You know other things like go to work, school or whatever, spend time socializing with friends, family and lovers. I would apologize for not grinding up to 32 so I can look the same as everyone else, but I realize that this raid gear is going to be useless on the 10th of March when the next expansion comes out. I would much rather spend those hours that could be used for grinding something worthless and that has no real value other than bragging rights doing something more fun, like spending time with my wife, watching a good movie or hanging out with my friends in person.
I have also been around long enough to know pretty much anyone who has the full set of gear probably cheesed the hell of the raids so all of that "I'm better than you, because I have this shiny armor" has always rang quite hollow with me. Well done, you pulled your lan cable out at the right moment, have a gold star. I will quite happily continue using my Iron Banner gear and a different shader so I can continue to look different to you and you know, actually enjoy myself when I play the game as I am not getting frustrated about the amount of shards I have or what soon-to-be-worthless armor I have yet to acquired.
So to all you 32's who act like this, I would just like to say good luck on your uniform individuality, self-entitlement and future nerd-raging over the Arena raid or whatever Xur selling next.
Bandeapart.
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Edited by che4tlist: 1/22/2015 1:48:31 PMSorry man. 31s start capping off after bridge. U dont do enough damage to be an effective part of the raid. Staying alive isnt an issue dmg output is
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Lol your an idiot....If you don't care about the game, which is fine of course, then why do you care if anyone will carry you through hard in its first week. The reality IS you are not dedicated enough to join us. We all (most) have lives and some ppl spend more of it on a game than you....so why do you act, in regards to the game solely, your anywhere near equal to those people? If your fine doing all that other stuff instead then why am I responding to this hypocritical post?
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Not knocking what you're saying, it rings true more often than not, but to offer a different perspective, I did all my grinding before the dark below came out. All I've had to do since it dropped is raids and nightfalls, I can get these done on a Tuesday night whilst I'm tired from work (I work 45 hours a week). While I appreciate the message behind the post and I've seen where it comes from. I just wanted to let people know - in case they would be too demoralised to try it themselves - that you can get 3 max rank characters while still maintaining a job and social life, can't speak for partner because I'm currently single (careful ladies). The initial grind is real, but once you get your characters to full legendary gear, the grind is a myth.
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Good for you. Have fun not experiencing some of the most rewarding parts of the game.
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Have fun grinding the same stuff over and over only for it to be made useless in a few weeks? Or how about I take that time and take my wife out for dinner, go to the pub with my friends, read a book, watch a movie or play with my kitten? Huh, tough call mate. Not like the Raids will disappear 10th of March and if I unfortunately die before then I doubt my final thoughts well be "Damn, I never made 32 or did the raid."
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Edited by Danzigo: 1/22/2015 8:11:21 PMI can make time for life, and this game. Stop trying to make stupid excuses of why you can't do the raid blah blah blah. You're crying now, and you will be crying when the new dlc comes out. If you really didn't care, you wouldn't be on here crying/commenting. You aren't fooling anyone.
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So what is your issue? If you choose not to do all of the stuff you list about doing strikes over and over and grinding, than why do you care so much about doing the hard raid anyway? Sounds like you've got better things to do.
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Have fun experiencing a game at this exact moment? Have fun experiencing what life has to offer? Hmm, tough decision!
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I can do both. Apparently some of you retards have trouble with that.
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Nice name, obviously a nice guy!
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I endured the Iron Banner grind, as a mediocre PVP player for the sole purpose of getting the guantlets. Mission successful, after one raid and a quick trip to the 1st chest on another charector I had enough mats to get to 32. Either way, it's a grind, but the sense of gaming accomplishment was great.
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Great post bud
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I take off my imaginary hat to you, mister. Well said.
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Sounds like something I'd have written myself if I'd had the patience. Well said, sir.
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Lol, so because there will be new items out in a month and a halfs time you're not going to bother playing destiny? Great logic bro, stop making excuses for sucking at the raid.
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Didn't say I wouldn't play, just said it was pointless to grind for items that would be soon outdated. Sort of a big difference.
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Then there's no point playing the game at all using that logic is there? There's always going to be items that will outdate the current ones. If the raid (which is essentially the ultimate element of the game) is "grinding" then what is all the rest of the game to you? You're contradicting your own logic.
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Or how about I wait, get level 34 gear from vendors like everyone else will before they go for the arena raid, not bother with the grinding and save all those shards Ect? Certainly more economical and would at least allow me to retain more individuality. Besides, I kinda thought the point of the game, or any game as a matter of fact was *fun*, not "Lets get to the next arbitrary number that the devs made to keep me playing longer"? When I play Destiny I play because I want to shoot some aliens in the face, or gun down some other superhuman nut jobs in PVP, not because I want to do the same thing over and over so I can look like everyone else in armor that doesn't particularly appeal to me.
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Well I must question what you're doing on a thread about being included in a fireteam for the hard raid. If you think it's about gear then you're utterly clueless. The hard raid is currently the most difficult thing to do in the game. There is an element of achievement and enjoyment in completing it. I dont see how you see doing the raid as repetition but are happy to do the same patrols, strikes and crucible whenever you're playing the game. To criticise a diffrent element of the game and call that repetitive when you have barely (if ever) played is just plain moronic. If you're happy to sit on your arse for more than a month getting your head kicked in playing crucible while you wait to buy some gear then power to you. Don't cry however when people are making fireteams for the raid and we're asking for players that have actually put effort in to make sure they're not a burden to the other 5 players.
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If I was looking for something where I'd find an element of achievement for doing something difficult then I would play monster hunter or dark souls. Both of which are more rewarding and varied from my experience, Monster Hunter 4 is more than likely going to kill Destiny for me when it comes out. If you actually read the original post, both mine and the threads original post you'd realize that this is about the elitism of 32's. The "I'm better than you because..." Oh, and for the record I have no intention to spend the next month and a half grinding the crucible or whatever as before march 10th I get a nice 2 week work trip to HK, Valentines Day, and then Chinese new year, which is kinda a big deal for my better half's side of the family. Understandably, between that and work I don't have a lot of time to do the same crap over and over again.
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Yet you're going to return to the game to "do the same crap over and over again" anyway. If it's all such a drag to you, why not just play all the games you consider superior if you're telling me that your game time is so precious?
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Finished Dark Souls, Monster Hunter 4 isn't out until the 31st of March. Incidentally, I haven't done the same crap over and over, I have a level 30 hunter and a level 2 warlock which I started on the idea of maybe making an alt. but I really couldn't be fussed to painfully sit through the non-story and bad voice acting. If you had read my plan I'm just gonna wait until house of wolves drops and get gear I actually want an easier way that allows me minimal effort, and maximum gain. Efficiency, economics and a sense of individuality aren't your thing are they? I could grind pointlessly to get the same gear everyone else has, or I could wait a month and get better gear with much less time and effort. Hmmm. Lets illustrate the point differently: Everyone has an Iphone 6, and it cost 5000 units of whatever local currency you use, however Samsung are going to release a new, better and more powerful phone in a month at the cost of 3500 units of local currency, This phone may not be as powerful as the Iphone 7 due out around the same time which will be priced around 6000 units, but it runs on Android so it naturally allows you to customize it a lot further. Are you going to buy an iphone 6 now? Or are you going to wait?
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A phone and a game are two wildly different things. If you're idea of fun is about efficiency and economucs then you can't be much fun at parties. You want to be "individual" yet you're happy to buy the same vendor gear as everyone else. I want to complete elements of the game that require teamwork and something nit everyone has achieved up until this point. I also enjoy the social aspect of raiding. You obviously have no experience of this and go out of your way to justify your own position. Guess what, I'm going to get the houe of wolves gear and then I'm going to do that raid too and then I'll get that gear too.
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And whilst you do that, I will be being fun at parties, and, yes, even buying gear that is available to everyone else would be far more individual that wearing the same gear as everyone else. The phone thing was to attempt to illustrate the point to you, but you clearly lack the imagination for metaphors. My ideas of fun are not based around efficiency or economics, I simply have an understanding of them and don't see the point in doing a grand task that would be rendered useless by the point the next DLC drops. All I need really to say to retort to the last part is to simply remind you that you are going out of your way to argue with someone on the internet who you have never met because their ideas of fun don't line up with yours. Honestly, I don't really care if I am amongst the first people in the world to do something in a video game. I don't really hold anything I do in games as achievements managing to take down a Blackhawk's pilot and gunner in Bad Company 2 or completing my Pokedex never did anything for my career, love life, financial or social standing, which are kinda a lot more important. Acting like an elitist or having some form of superiority complex due to your "achievements" in a video game is kinda sad mate.
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If you don't see the point in the game until the next DLC drops, why play the game at all? There'll be ANOTHER DLC a couple of months later which will make your purchase of the vendor gear useless. So the question is this: If you consider playing the game in it's current format a "grand task" (FYI it really isn't you're just displaying ignorance to something you clearly haven't done) why are you going to buy the DLC? It's going to be exactly the same situation. Are you looking forward to one more strike and a few more missions? Are you looking forward to getting killed on a couple more crucible maps? You talk about how playing the game is pointless, yet you play it and you're going to spend more money on it. To justify your own stance suggesting that raiding is pointless is hypocritical since it's no different to what you're doing. You talk about how you want to be individual, yet you wear the same gear as everyone else as well. FYI, it's ironic that you're continually making references to an active social life and that an ingame achievement is sad. Considering you're supporting the OP about people looking down their nose at others yet you're doing precisely the same thing. I could go on the defence and harp on about my own life outside of the game as a counter to your constant inference that you have some sort of superior social life, that of course is a pointless exercise. For starters, I could talk about how I'm an astronaut on the international space station. It makes not one jot of a difference because this is the internet and I'm not so insecure about it that I bother to waste my time on the matter with strangers.
