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Edited by BORG: 1/17/2015 6:22:46 PM
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PETITION: VoG weapons at 331. Raids shouldn't be rendered irrelevant.

1500+ up votes 3000+ replies [You guys came up with so many great ideas. I really wish Bungie had a look at the comments here.] [b]Come on, Bungie, give us the freedom to choose whatever suits our style best and don't let those awesome weapons you've designed become obsolete. Actually, don't let the stunning Vault of Glass (best content in the game) be consumed by the darkness. I believe that Raids and its weapons should always be the at level cap. More weapons to choose from, more content to play. Weapons are mostly situational and mixing them is part of a successful strategy (it's fun too). Having more to choose from just add to the game. Edit: I'm not suggesting to automatically turn them into 331 attack weapons. Just give us a way to upgrade them to the current attack cap. I bet you guys can implement it in a sensible way. Why would we go against the idea of having more relevant weapons at our disposal? It's like saying "I'd rather have less weapons, less content". Let's not be passively attached to an old format. Destiny is something new with immense potential.[/b] ===================== Some great comments Bungie should pay some attention to: AJIc3CoLd said: "But what they decide to do with VOG weapons speaks to the future of the current raid weapons as well. Right now, there is an expiration date on my Fatebringer and that sucks, supremely, but now that same feeling isn't too far for my Black Hammer either. I'd like to carry these weapons with me as long as I am playing Destiny. Yeah, future weapons maybe better and I end up scraping these guns one day but I'd like to be able to decide for myself versus having no choice in the matter. Just my take on the situation". JoshLags said: "The problem lies within the way they have designed the upgrading system. They are going to have to re work how you upgrade weapons and armor. Yeah they could just update the VOC gear up to 32 and 331 but what happens when the House of Wolves comes out? Then they are going to have to update both Dark Below and VOC all over again the prevent them from being obsolete. They need to just make it were the players can choose the path they want to take. You choose what armor and weapons you want to upgrade to the highest rank. I mean make it a difficult task. I wouldn't mind the challenge and it would inspire players to be more creative with their characters rather than every single person wearing the same gear". DE4THINC4RN4TE said: "Upgrading older legendary weapons could finally give a use for the Gunsmith beyond buying ammo and weapons at a low level. Not to mention it would help provide a larger variety of "good" weapons so that we would have more things to work towards. After all the various DLC's are done, just imagine how varied the weapon and armor selection would be. (Speaking of which, vendors should be able to upgrade armor as well.)"

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  • Edited by JdeFalconr: 1/7/2015 11:57:01 PM
    I think what's you're saying makes sense to an extent but I disagree on two fronts. First of all, I don't see any issue with raids being tiered. VoG is a key stepping-stone towards Crota's End. Granted it's made less relevant by being able to purchase level 31 gear from Tower vendors. However VoG not only yields equipment that lets you hit that same level but it also gives you an excellent source of the upgrade materials required to max out that Vendor gear. Second, the exotics that VoG yields, while not the upgraded versions, either represent a discount on the upgraded version (cost of an upgrade compared to cost of a straight-out purchase) or a free Exotic Shard, a value of about seven Strange Coins, respectively. That's not to mention, otherwise, you're getting an exotic item, albeit not an upgraded one; that alone is no reason to cry. Legendary equipment is still useful (VoC is still an excellent weapon as is Praedyth's sniper rifle that I can't remember the name of) and if not it can be disposed of. I would argue that instead of simply making VoG's current normal and hard difficulties yield equipment of the same level as Crota's End that instead a third difficulty level should be added (level 31 or 32) that gives equipment of the same quality as that in Crota's End and also requires as well as yields the same type of upgrade materials utilized by Crota's End equipment. That preserves the lower levels of VoG as a stepping stone and also gives VoG increased relevance in the overall game. Additionally to give you an added reason to get gear from VoG they could implement some kind of exchange system that lets you turn in Raid legendaries for Crota's End upgrade materials.

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