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Edited by BORG: 1/17/2015 6:22:46 PM
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PETITION: VoG weapons at 331. Raids shouldn't be rendered irrelevant.

1500+ up votes 3000+ replies [You guys came up with so many great ideas. I really wish Bungie had a look at the comments here.] [b]Come on, Bungie, give us the freedom to choose whatever suits our style best and don't let those awesome weapons you've designed become obsolete. Actually, don't let the stunning Vault of Glass (best content in the game) be consumed by the darkness. I believe that Raids and its weapons should always be the at level cap. More weapons to choose from, more content to play. Weapons are mostly situational and mixing them is part of a successful strategy (it's fun too). Having more to choose from just add to the game. Edit: I'm not suggesting to automatically turn them into 331 attack weapons. Just give us a way to upgrade them to the current attack cap. I bet you guys can implement it in a sensible way. Why would we go against the idea of having more relevant weapons at our disposal? It's like saying "I'd rather have less weapons, less content". Let's not be passively attached to an old format. Destiny is something new with immense potential.[/b] ===================== Some great comments Bungie should pay some attention to: AJIc3CoLd said: "But what they decide to do with VOG weapons speaks to the future of the current raid weapons as well. Right now, there is an expiration date on my Fatebringer and that sucks, supremely, but now that same feeling isn't too far for my Black Hammer either. I'd like to carry these weapons with me as long as I am playing Destiny. Yeah, future weapons maybe better and I end up scraping these guns one day but I'd like to be able to decide for myself versus having no choice in the matter. Just my take on the situation". JoshLags said: "The problem lies within the way they have designed the upgrading system. They are going to have to re work how you upgrade weapons and armor. Yeah they could just update the VOC gear up to 32 and 331 but what happens when the House of Wolves comes out? Then they are going to have to update both Dark Below and VOC all over again the prevent them from being obsolete. They need to just make it were the players can choose the path they want to take. You choose what armor and weapons you want to upgrade to the highest rank. I mean make it a difficult task. I wouldn't mind the challenge and it would inspire players to be more creative with their characters rather than every single person wearing the same gear". DE4THINC4RN4TE said: "Upgrading older legendary weapons could finally give a use for the Gunsmith beyond buying ammo and weapons at a low level. Not to mention it would help provide a larger variety of "good" weapons so that we would have more things to work towards. After all the various DLC's are done, just imagine how varied the weapon and armor selection would be. (Speaking of which, vendors should be able to upgrade armor as well.)"

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  • I agree!

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  • Edited by Caddy197: 1/6/2015 8:58:54 PM
    Sorry, I kinda feel that since this has some MMO aspects, these older weapons should be left behind and time to move on to the new ones. The new primaries will be dropping once Hard Mode Crota drops. We were lucky to be able to upgrade our existing Exotics. Most other games with MMO gameplay or certain aspects make you grind for new gear AND weapons. Out with the old, in with the new. Plus.........these old weapons still have a lot of relevance. I use my VoC and Hazen Vengeance in Crota's End. They do just fine. Actually feel like VoC is still better than the upgraded Surros.

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    • Yay or nay I say nay

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    • Yay or nay I say yay

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    • Edited by ARCHER444: 1/6/2015 7:55:19 PM
      Heck yeah! I'm all for 331 weapons from a level 30 raid! (*sarcasm in case you weren't aware). Seriously though- I would LOVE to have a 331 fatebringer! There would be no need to use any other weapon. Heck, it's still a beast at 300.

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      • They should at least have exotic drops be 331 attack or 36 light.

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      • I would like my VoC to be boosted, however I feel this is another case where people will complain until it happens and then complain when they get it. Wait for the hard CE raid to get the new raid primaries I'm sure we will all love them.

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      • I need a 331 voc and fatebringer. You all agree? Offcourse you do! Guns are sick!

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      • Make an elite level vault of glass at level 32 then make all of us earn higher damage vog weapons and gear. That could be an option I'd be into.

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        • Yes please!

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        • Making prior content irrelevant, not to mention all the discontentment that creates for players, is an extremely poor, short-sighted design decision that will ultimately have detrimental effects on the longevity of the game. Bungie, while new to MMO-style games, needs to take some of their cues (or more than some) from other more successful, well-established MMOs. That said, there is a synergy between content and gear choices that is directly proportional to player satisfaction. Prior content therefore needs to be kept relevant, player time investment needs to be respected, and ALL gear choices need to be maintained throughout the life of the game. This will provide Bungie with better content economy, which will expand the depth and appeal of the game, while allowing players to make personal gear choices for both individual expression and increased incentive to experience more game content.

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          • I'd love a bump to 331, but do not think it's actually necessary at the moment. If they raise the difficulty of the Weekly Heroic and Nightfall again, however, my opinion would change. If the only way to keep up with those activities is to get DLC weapons, then it will become a pay-to-win game that I'm not interested in supporting.

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          • Why is any of this system news to people? "I'd like to be able to decide for myself versus having no choice in the matter." Uh, when you go to a new zone and get a new weapon better than your last, that's deciding for yourself? Sounds to me like you still have no choice but to upgrade to the better weapon. MMOs and RPGs in general are all about this type of gameplay, if you don't like it, get out and stop complaining. I'm happy to see what new crazy gear comes with each raid / expansion and move on to new loot.

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          • Bump!

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          • Edited by justin_giver: 1/6/2015 9:04:01 PM
            These are raid specific, the only way to increase the damage would be to increase the lvl of atheon and company. By this time next year vog will be a breeze. We will be around lvl 36-40 and vog is 28-30. If they don't increase the lvl there is no reason to increase the raid specific weapons. Edit:changed wording

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          • Not needed, stfu.

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          • Is anyone who makes petitions over the age of 10?

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          • Bump

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          • Those weapons are already good! I don't see why people want the team to waste their time with this... Fatebringer owns the Dark Below, Vision of Confluence is a good Primary as well. Praedyths Time Piece of a wrecking ball in the Crucible and can be good for PVE. Hezen Vengeance is still a good RL and Corrective Measure is a good LMG. Vex Mythoclast is a beast and I haven't tried the Praetorian Foil but I'm guessing that it's just as good as it was before... Those weapons are great at 300, they are where they belong at 300 because they are part of the VoG collection. Do you want them to upgrade the VoG Raid armor to 36 light too? Just stop this already... The damage increases with your level as well so the weapons are not being left behind.

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            • Makes sense if the difficulty makes it legit across the board. I don't understand the naysayers, the system makes us not care about the Vault anymore.

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            • Edited by A K: 1/6/2015 8:49:10 PM
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              I'm allrite with VoG guns not being upgraded provided there are new raid guns that can get the job done on top of that, we can upgrade and keep Exotic weapons/gear, it's tedious and sometimes even annoying, but it's possible ...all I want Bungie to take care of is bigger Vault to at least allow me to keep the weapons/gear I like (such as VoG stuff) once they make them "obsolete"

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            • Nope. Stupid petition.

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            • Shouldn't be 331 IMO, but the primaries should go over 300 as they are from the hard mode.

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