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Edited by BORG:
1/17/2015 6:22:46 PM
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PETITION: VoG weapons at 331. Raids shouldn't be rendered irrelevant.
1500+ up votes
3000+ replies
[You guys came up with so many great ideas. I really wish Bungie had a look at the comments here.]
[b]Come on, Bungie, give us the freedom to choose whatever suits our style best and don't let those awesome weapons you've designed become obsolete. Actually, don't let the stunning Vault of Glass (best content in the game) be consumed by the darkness.
I believe that Raids and its weapons should always be the at level cap. More weapons to choose from, more content to play.
Weapons are mostly situational and mixing them is part of a successful strategy (it's fun too). Having more to choose from just add to the game.
Edit: I'm not suggesting to automatically turn them into 331 attack weapons. Just give us a way to upgrade them to the current attack cap. I bet you guys can implement it in a sensible way.
Why would we go against the idea of having more relevant weapons at our disposal? It's like saying "I'd rather have less weapons, less content". Let's not be passively attached to an old format. Destiny is something new with immense potential.[/b]
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Some great comments Bungie should pay some attention to:
AJIc3CoLd said:
"But what they decide to do with VOG weapons speaks to the future of the current raid weapons as well. Right now, there is an expiration date on my Fatebringer and that sucks, supremely, but now that same feeling isn't too far for my Black Hammer either. I'd like to carry these weapons with me as long as I am playing Destiny. Yeah, future weapons maybe better and I end up scraping these guns one day but I'd like to be able to decide for myself versus having no choice in the matter. Just my take on the situation".
JoshLags said:
"The problem lies within the way they have designed the upgrading system. They are going to have to re work how you upgrade weapons and armor. Yeah they could just update the VOC gear up to 32 and 331 but what happens when the House of Wolves comes out? Then they are going to have to update both Dark Below and VOC all over again the prevent them from being obsolete. They need to just make it were the players can choose the path they want to take. You choose what armor and weapons you want to upgrade to the highest rank. I mean make it a difficult task. I wouldn't mind the challenge and it would inspire players to be more creative with their characters rather than every single person wearing the same gear".
DE4THINC4RN4TE said:
"Upgrading older legendary weapons could finally give a use for the Gunsmith beyond buying ammo and weapons at a low level. Not to mention it would help provide a larger variety of "good" weapons so that we would have more things to work towards. After all the various DLC's are done, just imagine how varied the weapon and armor selection would be. (Speaking of which, vendors should be able to upgrade armor as well.)"
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Yes. I vote for this
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After DLC update all weapons and armors got outdated. Only where you were able to use your upgrated armors and weapons were PVP where it doesnt matter is it 300 or 331 attack or 30 or 36 light. Im waiting new DLC with fear. If they update attack and light lvls again, it doesnt matter have you played game from beginning or not. If Bungie do the same and update light and attack lvls we have only outdated weapons and armors left. VOG weapons and armors also Crota weapons and armors lose their purpose. That is not so bad as exotic items. I give you an example. I will give you an example. If you have over 15 exotic weapons and over 20 exotic gear parts they all are outdated after new DLC. Yes of course you can update them. But what a cost. If I want use and rotate exotic weapons and armors in new raid, nightwall and weekly heroic strikes, I have to update them all. And that cost a lot. About 40 exotic items, that cost 40 exotic shards (not a problem) and 40x7k glimmer= 280k glimmer ( this is the problem). And after that there is still one more problem. I have upgrated my exotics atleast once. Now I have to lvl up them all again. Every update cost 500-1500 glimmer and every exotic one exotic shard. Also needed a lot of spinmetal, helium filaments, spirit bloom and relic iron. So total glimmer what one exotic item needs is about 12k. And if you are able to get all of this, you just need to gain enought experience for your items. Again. Its fine if it cost exotic shard to update exotics again but if you need to lvl them up and farm 500k glimmer, never. Of course you can get just 1 exotic armor piece and weapon but using same equipments always is boring, atleast I think it is. And I didnt even mention yet all those legendary items what are worthless. You delete them all (except good PVP items). You spent more than enought glimmer on those items for upgrading them also you spent spinmetal, helium filaments, spirit bloom and relic iron for them and ascendant shards or energies ( old players have more than enought these so who cares) but when you destroy those items, you receive worthless energies and shards and 25-50 glimmer. ( I didnt say anything about plasteel platings and other similiar items but you need a lot of those too) I hope that you understand my point and English.
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I actually find no reason for them to make VoG more useful than it already is (which isn't to useful for lv 31 trying to get to level 32) however VoG is extremely useful to new players. Let's face it the first raids weapons were good, too good actually, atheons epilogue, vex, vision, fatebringer (blackhammer though is really good). There wouldn't be too much incentive to use any other weapon besides those ones honestly, maybe other raid weapons for doing other raids but that's it. See weapons need to be outdated because you don't want day 1 weapons to be as Strong as weapons in future dlc, no there must be a progression of power, especially so that people who start playing destiny can feel the progression as well.
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5 RepliesPeople like you need to stop playing Destiny. In every RPG game that puts out new gear every now and then the old stuff should not be at the same LVL as the new. Take a RPG game like WoW do you expect the stuff that came out 11 years ago to be just as powerful as the stuff that came out just a few months ago. No you dont. so i dont see why you guys expect that on Destiny. This community is nothing but a bunch cry babies. This game is good but people like are messing it up for the people who know how RPGs are meant to be played
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Hard Bump
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It's all about character customization said Bungie, but if you want to reach level 32 you will all look the same... Hahaah thanks for that one
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Hard bump!
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Bump!
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I find the keeping only content relevant to be stupid as there's no reason to farm out new gear
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Edited by Retribution: 1/10/2015 4:07:03 AMI really like DE4THINC4RN4TE's idea for having the Gunsmith upgrade Legendary weapons to the 331 value. I also would like the ability to upgrade my old Vanguard/Crucible weapons mainly for my Shadow Price, as I don't like these new High ROF assault rifles.
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Bump. I want people to keep reading this. It's a must needed idea added to the game. Come on people!
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I'm fine with the old raid weapons becoming irelevant in the future. We have new CE weapons to play with, and by the time the VoG weapons are irelevant we will have new raid legendaries currently unavaliable to us. This is a good article to read about attack values on weapons. For Legendary weapons you only gain a 12.5% increase from 300 to 331. So maxed VoG weapons are still effective in CE and in nightfalls. http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2rhgrm/weapon_damage_explained_with_science/ Vault Of Glass weapons are currently still relevant for the avaliable content. When House Of Wolves is released I imagine we will start to see them becoming less effective, but at that point we will have all the CE legendaries to play with. Plus there will be new raid weapons in the new raid. I don't have Fatebringer, so maybe I'd feel more attached if I did. I do love my VoC but I'll been using it for months and will be have to replace is with new CE raid primaries when the hard raid drops.
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Bump! It's stupid that you can buy guns stronger than raid weapons! Do you EVIN know how RPGs work?
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3 RepliesIs the next patch going to include buffing legendaries to 331 or just exotics in VOG?
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Its an easy fix tbh.. simply add a 32 game mode to vog that drops 31 or 32 with a lower percantage chance to get (because they only require ascendant mats) amd upgraded weps.
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1 ReplyI agree that raid weapons should be upgraded, but not raid armor. If you buff raid armor to lvl 32, then there is no incentive to do the new raid. Honestly, I dont think they will ever buff the weapons of the VoG. Sometimes weapons.get outdated, and this is the case. Sure, that leaves very little incentive to do the VoG, but thems the breaks. Besides, VoG is FUN. Enjoy it and dont worry about the rewards. [spoiler]And besides, you know everyone will play the VoG for that Chatterwhite :)[/spoiler]
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Then you would render most new raid weapons irrelevant.
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While I understand your desire to keep you old weapons. You have to realize you are asking them to trivialize and make irrelevant the new content by upgrading the old content.
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Edited by K1NGDOMCRASHER: 1/9/2015 6:15:55 PMSure Crota is only a normal raid but seriously people put effort into hard VoG that they should get 331 so that the guns are still useable, 331 would be excelent but if nothing else, 323 pls.
