The burden of proof is on those who make the claim. I had a lot of fun with Mass Effect. I bought the trilogy when it came out on PS3 (after playing 3), I bought the DLC for 3 and overall I think it was a pretty well put together space opera / Sci-fi epic. The lack of jumping in BioWare games always baffled me. I like jumping. Even the new dragon age's jumping feels awkward and artificial, but im glad it's there. Not to say that a lack of jumping can ruin a game for me... I also enjoy Destiny. A little bit for the grind, upgrading stuff is sorta fun. The gameplay is great and I do enjoy running the same content over a fair amount of times (been playing WoW for 10 years)... Though I have my limits. Anyway, gonna go turn in some bounties.