You are just missing my point,went into a raid in crotas end..made it through lanterns fine then literally three guys didn't even have the slightest idea how bridges were some correctly and 2 were level 32...when I say "trophy" all I mean is when you see someone with the gear even if they were carried you know they did it and probably have some relative idea what to do. The raid gear and items should show you completed the hardest activity in the game. i don't care about the cheesing IF you can and know how to do it legit but if someone is level 32 and hasn't done or even know how to do the raid then they really shouldn't have it,it makes the glory in this game to a minimum and I hope everyone gets all the gear I have outside and in the raids just learn how to really do it