The hardest problem people have is finding decent groups to do it with. I can do all the parts of the raid legit. But near enough every random raid group I join has certain players who have no idea what they are doing. (In that sense its a shame level 31 armor is sold by the vendors. There should of been some way to differenciate who has done the 'full raid' successfuly (a number of times) and who hasn't) And most of my online contacts complete all three raid runs on tuesdays and I often can't do them till later in the week. So I often have to use the likes of destinylfg to find groups. It can be very difficult - on ps3 anyway. And more often than not some of the group end up wanting to cheese crota. Even though beating him legit is a fairly basic excercise. It doesnt help with the deathsingers section not offering any loot, leading to no one bothering doing it. Most people I know beat crota three times in a row. Then do the rest of the raid (up to deathsinger) at a seperate time. So even if you get a group together capable of doing the raid it often breaks up because certain members only want to do certain sections.