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I agree with you the most part, but bungie isn't the reason there are so many problems with destiny. Activision is a dying company that want s to make as much money as possible. Bungie is making Halo guardians, but where is activisions new game? Bungie is the only reason destiny is what it was meant to be. Activision is bringing the game down. I have no problem with activision, but they HAVE to keep their fingers out of the game. Let bungie make the game, and activision can worry about the sales. Do that, and I'm sure the destiny series could be the next Halo.
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  • Activision is not at all a dying company! They just make over 500 million on this one game alone if their end of the year figures are true. That's as much as the said they were going to spend on destiny for the next ten years. And this Bungie is not the same people that made the halo games. The old Bungie split into two companies. Most people went to 343 to stay with halo and Bungie got a bunch of new people will little experience to make destiny.

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  • I was talking about activision making its own games. They make a lot of money, but they are partnering with large companies for the profit

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  • umm sorry dude activision (ATVI) did not make 500 million or anything vaguely like it. Read the Q. and they are a profitable company, doing rather well despite the huge fall in sales for COD and the below hoped for Destiny sell through

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  • 12,800,000 players times $60 bucks each totals (some math involved) 768,000,000 dollars. I'm just going off the numbers from the year end post and I'm taking into account that not everyone who is playing actually bought the game. So a rough estimate would be somewhere in the ball park of 500 mill. Can you back up your logic with math? Just saying. Lol

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  • what silvur said plus the 13 million number include all demo accounts 2nd hand sale and multiple accounts on a single game sale. they sold no where near 13 million, the street number is between 7 and 9 mill. and they get nothing like 60 more like 15 to 20 and a huge number of games sold were at a heavy discount.

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  • Activision doesn't get the full $60 for each disc. Retailers are getting their cut, which must be over 50% of the retail price to make a profit after expenses and is probably well over 50%. (Anybody work for a retailer? What does a reseller pay for a game?) So, Activision more realistically gets like $20 or $25 per disc. And they have their own overhead. So maybe $15-$20 is profit. We also cannot assume that 12.8 million players means 12.8 million discs sold. A household could have multiple accounts playing Destiny. For example, my brother and I share an Xbox and my gold account. So that's two players for one disc. And households with several kids? Even lower ration of discs to players. If we presume that for every four discs sold, one goes to a house with two players, we have a ratio of 5:4 or 1.25 players per disc on average. So 12,800,000 becomes 10,240,000. Multiplying 10,240,000 by a reasonable $20 profit per disc yields $204.8 million. Good money, but not $500 million. And whether any of this goes to Bungie depends on the contract terms. Can you back your logic with logic? Just sayin'. =D ;-)

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  • Lol good points guys. I should have taken that into account. Thanks for the info. Next time I'll think a little harder before I assume Bungie is telling the truth.

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  • Never trust a guy in sales. Also, all PR guys are basically in sales. ;)

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  • And Activision is a publisher. It doesn't make games.

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  • well they do.

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  • But they don't.

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  • oh good fucck , look it up. ATVI writes, supports and publishes games, who owns what, just look it up

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  • Bungie isn't making Halo 5.....

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