Those other guys are actually cheating. Now if you and your friends want to go play pool by taking turns dropping the balls into the pockets be my guest, but that sound kind of silly to me.

Oh yes because your word is absolute huh ok. Make sure you tell everyone how the sky is red.

Lol look at It from an outside perspective and compare and contrast the two methods. You tell me who's walking darts to the dart board and who's throwing them. Exploits and glitches are two of the major forms of cheating in any video game.

True Ima be walking the darts to the dart board because its my dart board 😉 plus its not my fault the creator of darts and its dart board have these flaws and exploits. I'll just wait for the creator to patch the game and then I'll play the darts that I purchased, the way you want me to play.

Lol they're not over board. They're difficult. You want to see over board? Let me see if I can load up a video of Titan Extreme lol. You got into something you weren't ready for and didn't understand. *shrugs* this is just like another day at the office only easier lol. Also why do you play if you're not going to play? Makes little sense to me, but do what you want lol. Double also you played for a lscence to play a game designed and perpetually run by a developer. You'll play how they design the game, that's the way these things work.

Nah Im totally ready like another day at school when the teacher hits you with that pop quiz. And dude I understand what your saying with your analogies and such. But if a developer designed a game to be played this way but they made a mistake with there code that makes you play a level another way then how is that my fault? Well I do say that I'm an opportunist so.

You pull out a cheat sheet or look at your classmate's answers to get that A? I mean they should have frisked you and put everyone on separate rooms. And it's your choice to exploit mistakes.

Well I am very good at hiding cheat sheets but I did say I was ready. Plus it will depend on which test it is. I never got caught but if I did and it was an important test I'll be in trouble. But I'm not an idiot I'm not gonna bring a cheat sheet to an important test. And your right, it is my choice but that doesn't give people the right to judge my choices and to tell me I should get ban just because I choice to use them.

...so it's ok to cheat by your views then...

I never said it was. You asked a question or should I say made some sort of statement and I honestly answered. Please dont compare a video game to real life. There are real consequences for cheating and exploiting in real life. Not in a video game. Banning? Haha. Why doesn't it matter anyway? How does my so called "cheating" effect you or anyone in destiny? I'm the type of guy that if I don't have to work hard for something I won't, I'll just find the easy to do things. In real life I have done this in several jobs and didn't hear any complaining, I'm pretty sure they prefer it. Like I said im a opportunist.

I've made a lot of friends through video games, had real enjoyment, and felt as much accomplishment by figureibg out and perfecting a raid encounter as I have almost anything else. You say that a game shouldn't be lumped in with real life when you're a real person sitting in reality as much as you would be a card game, an office, or any thing else. You're also dealing with real people on the player and developement side (which this is a more serious matter for). On a side not I've just always been under the idea that cheating was wrong no matter what capacity you perform it in. Work, games, love, or anything really. Cheating in a game consistently is counter productive. Sure you're getting cool gear, but why? You don't even use the gear because you don't need it to And before you start casting blame on Bungie for not considering that someone would disconnect their console to cripple a boss I don't think anyone would have been prepared for that. I think people make games under the assumption that players will want to play the game. Sadly they are mistaken about a chunk of the player base who, not only tries harder to find cheats than solving the actual mechanics, defends their desire to cheat as a right. If you were to spend your time discovering how to cheesecake raid boss or doupe items in another game of this type and were caught. I can almost guarantee the devs would do something about it. So, what makes Destiny different? accomplish your goals using cheats. In a pve sense it has a lot to do with principle. You don't cheat, period. It muddled the community and the image of any game your playing. Now that doesn't directly affect you but it does affect some of those in the community, the developers, and whoever else was involved to one degree or another. I can see how you wouldn't care about that, how you could justify that it's not your problem, but why would you? What you do affects, not only, others in a myriad of ways, but how the game might progress from this point forward. Bungle isn't only having to design content for players but they have to safe guard it against the players as well now as they want the game to be played fairly. Lastly, you purchased a liscenes, not the rights to the product. It's at Bungie's descretion how the game is run, to determine what is allowed and what isn't. Exploits, glitches, and the like have been cheating since the dawn of gaming. Time hasn't't changed that. Cheating has always been a punishable act. Time has not changed that either...nor should it.

Well I don't waste time finding cheats or whatever. I find them on YouTube and google. And I'm pretty sure I bought a game not a license. And I'm not blaming bungie but you know its there game. They are the ones that made the $60+ dollar game not a license. So if we not blaming bungie then who? The customers that paid $60+ dollars for the game? Bungie should thank the people that bought this game for $60+ dollars because they can see exactly what to fix in the next update. In one hand I'm glad bungie didn't release the hard raid yet.

I didn't expect you to say that. I thought you would cheese that too 0_0

No..I thought I told you not to judge well especially not me anyway Lol 😂😉