[quote]What group do you have? I always try it legit.... NOT A SINGLE GROUP HAS KILLED HIM IN 2 WEEKS MULTIPLE GROUPS A day... I've never killed crota because of it and I had all 31s a few times and didn't even get a miniscule of health down.. Oh and the cheese? One group tried it for 4 hours and failed the cheese every time according to what they told me... The closest I got was him at half health.. Then 3 ppl lagged out because the servers suck..[/quote] Me not James xdangle hirish river and xzero can crush the raid now beginning to end in 33 minutes including the 5 minutes we wait after we kill crota. #no cheese! 1 person on boomers 1 swordsman 4 able body's who can shoot 1 rocket at the right time. (Also I would like to start making videos soon but I don't have the equipment) as far as proof for the 33 minute run actually 28 minutes cause like I said it takes about 5 minutes for the rewards page to pop up. Check my stats for Tuesday morning first 3 raids at 4am all the raids after that is me trying to get sword practice in lfg lobbies. lol