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12/19/2014 6:47:09 PM
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It's unnecessary to disprove that which has never been proven.
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  • It's been proven that a man named "Jesus" existed. It's still debatable if he is the son of God.

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    Plenty of people have been named Jesus, but the one the original poster referred to may have never existed.

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  • I [i]am[/i] talking about that specific Jesus. Although I'm not sure if you agree on the documentaries they show on TV but there's a lot of them out there on this subject, other internet sources- you get the idea, not gonna ramble. Of course with an open mind if you're still skeptic about it in the end. I'm sure the evidence about his existence is pretty solid if you're willing to search this yourself.

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    I've seen a lot of evidence on both sides, and that' why I doubt their existence.

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  • It's not a debate that he ever lived.

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    Sure it is. I've seen compelling evidence he was a combination of several people, given a different name and often mistaken for being white.

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  • Jesus was not white, he was Saudi Arabian, but I'm sure you knew that. And no, it's not a debate anywhere among virtually all college professors, historians, archaeologists, theologians etc (and by virtually all, I mean >95%). It's like denying that Muhammad ever existed. It's retarded. If you know something that people 500 times smarter than you don't, please share it.

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    Except plenty of experts don't believe for certain he existed in the way most people believe. The Romans kept very good records, and Jesus is not in them.

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  • Edited by Uncle Putin: 12/19/2014 7:22:33 PM
    [quote]The Romans kept very good records, and Jesus is not in them.[/quote] That's a huge fallacy. A large amount of Roman documents were destroyed during the decline of Rome (or the fall of Rome, however you want to put it) and to say that he was never in the records blatantly ignores this fact. Not only that, but the Roman archives that survived this have been lost with time. Here is an excellent excerpt destroying your argument. You can read more of it [url=https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1061-jesus-christ-myth-or-genuine-history]here[/url]. [quote] Tacitus (ca. A.D. 60-120), a Roman historian, mentions Pilate only one time, and that incidentally. He contended that the “Christians” derived their name from “Christus,” who “was executed at the hands of Pontius Pilate in the reign of Tiberius” (The Annals xv.44). In 1961, a team of archaeologists from Milan, Italy were excavating at Caesarea, just north of modern Tel Aviv. They had been focused upon the huge amphitheater that initially was built by Herod the Great (ca. 73 – 4 B.C.). Among these ruins, archaeologists discovered a limestone slab. It was thirty-two inches high, twenty-seven inches wide, and eight inches thick. A partial inscription was clearly visible. It was not difficult to decipher the complete message. A free translation reads: "The Tiberieum [a temple dedicated to Tiberias] of the Caesareans Pontius Pilate Praefect of Judea has given." Alan Millard, Professor of Hebrew and Ancient Semitic Languages at the University of Liverpool, has observed that this represents “the only known inscription from his lifetime naming Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor who ordered the crucifixion of Jesus” (1997, 327) (emphasis added). [b]Let the significance of this sink in—in light of the criticism mentioned at the beginning of this piece. Here was a man who served the Roman government for ten years in one of the political hotspots of the empire. He himself was embroiled repeatedly in controversy. [i]And yet, there is not a solitary Roman archival document that so much as mentions his name![/b][/i] How, then, could anyone possibly cast a shadow of suspicion upon the Gospel records, due to the fact that there is scant Roman testimony regarding a Galilean religious teacher who lived more than 1,500 hundred miles to the east? [/quote]

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