Beyond Evolution: Great post and points!!! Couldn't agree more. Some of us don't care for the crucible. One of the points that were emphasized was that the game could be played whichever way you wanted, and that lone wolves could have a really great experience without PvP. I don't enjoy the crucible very much. I prefer the rest of the game missions and patrols. I enjoy farming for materials. It's fun to go on patrol for bit, have some battles, pick up some chests and get some materials to exchange for vangard marks. Now, it's like Bungie have removed all these fun items and goals to strive for to force ONE single particular way of playing. It was my favorite and best way to get vangard marks and legendary gear apart from the events and drops. Maybe I'm weird, but it's obvious from this thread, I'm not the only one. I enjoy the farming for materials, the looking for chests, the exploration, the patrols, and the in-between battles and events. Hell, I even enjoyed the treasure caves. Going to the fair and shooting at a shooting gallery isn't for everyone, but every now and again, it's definitely fun, as it was on the treasure cave. Why it's been all removed is a mystery. Everyone should play whichever way they find it fun for them. We paid for the game, and continue to play 'cause we enjoy it, so why not add to it instead of removing what we enjoy? It's like Pac-Man removing the pellets because people weren't eating the ghosts. Let us play the way we want to play. Wasn't that the point of having all these ways to play? Oh, and one last thing Bungie: - I will never play a raid: It requires too many people to commit too many hours together for a single mission. A bit absurd really, though it might be great for high school and college kids. - If you know and recognize the Cryptarch sucks, then why don't you change it? - If you want to force people to do "shared shooting", then why is there no matchmaking available everywhere?! - Why do all characters have the same 9 weapons? - Postmaster is now as irrelevant as everything in the north tower and the special orders. You've made that whole building now as irrelevant as the stupid fan on top. - You're turning a game that had a lot of wasted potential and limiting it even more... WHY?!!!!! Bring back the fun! Just pondering...