How do you think someone found that out the first time?... They pushed him off legit... Imo pushing is just another strategy, just like jumping on the outside platforms.. Bungie wants it done their way, you're not coming up with new strats unless it goes with bungies guidelines... I've done the raid over 50 times. Beat it both ways. Pissed me off a little when I was the only one who knew how to beat the Templar legit when trying yesterday but that's off topic..