I agree with the person who said this is the dumbest post ever. why should you have to enter into the crucible to get crucible gear? to get crucible marks? hmm idk, why do I have to raid to get the vex? why cant it just be a random drop from chests that get farmed, that would be fair right? why cant everything in the game be earned my mindlessly grinding. Hey while your at it, make the flawless raider trophy drop from chests too so I don't have to earn that either, why should I have to be involved with raiding just to get raiding specific trophies and rewards? honestly the only thing more stupid than your complaint is the bungie employee who thought of mat grinding for marks in the first place, when the current system of trading marks for mats is infinitely more understandable and useful. not to mention, what sense does it make that you gain player killing REPUTATION from turning in mats. by that logic the mailman who delivers footballs to the NLF should be more famous than any quarterback. "Hey man brought you some supplies, can I have some hardcore killer street cred now? its idiotic