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Edited by Tjrails:
12/4/2014 12:09:57 AM
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HM VoG isnt fun anymore
All because of the templar fix.
Unless you have an experienced raid team and good weapons the hard mode raid is an excruciatingly painful experience.
Templar is easily the hardest part of the raid. Without the cheese my raid team and I get stuck at templar for hours sometimes. We never cheesed atheon or NM Templar. We only cheesed HM templar to get to the rest of the raid without wanting to throw our ps4s out the window.
The hard raid is no longer worth it imo.
Hopefully bungie get things right with crotas end.
Edit: What I'm trying to say is that HM templar is harder than it should be and sometimes causes so much frustration that I would rather not do the raid at all. I have beat HM templar many times legit. Just sharing my opinion about the fight.
Edit: Didn't think this would cause such a stir.
Reading through the responses has made me realize how toxic this community is.
Apperently opinions aren't welcome here.
Though I did see some light in the darkness.
IE. people respecting my opinion even if they disagreed
Edit: I want to make it clear that I don't like to cheese or ever relied on the cheese. My raid Team and I are very experienced in the VoG and have beat HM templar many times. I just feel templar needs a little tweeking.
If you think I'm just a scrub and I should "get gud" then that's your opinion and I will respect it.
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Although its frustrating for you, this is how the raid was supposed to be: for legitimate, well organized groups. Its not supposed to be easy peasy loot. Back in vanilla WoW, you would keep attempting a boss for hours, maybe not even down him that night only to try him again the next night. It took perseverance. I could care less if you are a "casual" if that is what people are calling each other these days, but this is by design. Many people new to MMO mechanics don't understand the logic behind this, but the point is good loot for good players. I think they kind of flubbed that with VoG because of their flaws in the raid design (all of the cheeses), but I'm hoping Crota will actually be challenging because exotic loot is supposed to be exotic, not 80% of people walking around with a raid weapon.
