you gotta admit, there are alot of garbage players out there that are lvl 30, the ones that go into your raid party, always choose the cheese method instead of getting good and improving their game, always try to boss ppl around, and end up getting carried. thats why i started my own clan, we have 5 dedicated members and a six whos gonna get kicked nontheless we all can use relic and know how to get things done. like i said a much needed skill gap