I'm not sure how seriously we are taking Destiny. Maybe we're taking Bungies Reactions to How We Play Destiny or try to play Destiny far more seriously. Which Patch after Patch seems not to be the way Bungie EVER Wanted the (Whole|Majority|Any) Community To Play Destiny. Why Doesn't Bungie Just Get Rid of Vendors and It's all RNG which is were it's heading for PvE Or we Log In and our Character Runs though Destiny Automatically for Bungie to Play Destiny with. The whole Get Good Or go Play PvP and put up with it response from the PvP centric side of the Destiny community is becoming just as tiring as "Become Legend"

Destiny, is incomplete there is no doubt about that. But if you play other mmos, you will find that there are pvp related items. And in fact in some, you only get them if you are good in pvp, sometimes you have to be really good to get them. And I think these should be seperate, there are multiple people who play this game, and methods to getting stuff should definitely be kept seperate. On the base game, they are an fps styled in an mmo but the content is about 10% of what a normal mmo styled game has. One raid on release is typical of a phone game, but not a AAA made from bungie. Sure, you can say that it was consoles holding it back, specifically the ones 10 years old, and that very well may be the case. You can also say that bungie really didn't know what they were getting into, or they just flat out pulled a molyneux. The funny thing is, people are eating it up. Including myself, the fact that such little content can entertain so many people for so long is a testament to what gaming in general is turning into, we justified them for what they did, we proved to them that they didn't need to make more content and the community was more or less sated with what was already there. But that really is beside the point, the argument was including a PvP element and a PvE element. Even though they aren't as developed as they should be, they should be kept seperate just in case they are, it promotes a healthy game with healthy competition. I can't imagine the butthurt if PvP was as skill based as the Hard raid, how would people feel if you could get raid equivalent gear only by winning games consistantly with a 2.0 K/D, people these days think they are entitled to things these days. They would be upset because they could never attain it, they want a hand out just because it exists. Think that they bought the game so it entitles them to have every piece of content within the game, it's ridiculous. I am not the one to say back in my day, but back in my day kids that played games wanted to aspire to something, now they just want free hand outs. and it is a truly sad sad day, it is a good thing I wasn't a child during this era, I lived through the post-golden age of gaming and it was good. Now we have micro transactions and self entitlement, as well as AAA lying and giving less than quality games to the consumers. And the consumers sucking it right up, straight from the tap. Edit: Just to clarify, it could come out wrong when people think they are entitled to the games existing content, this applies to earned gear which doesn't really exist because it is really only existent in the raid. People are obviously entitled to the games content such as strikes, raids, and other activities.