I noticed a handful of these threads crying for Mats to Marks to be returned. I don't understand why anyone would play that way to get marks...I'm not good at math but here we go. Faction helm = 120 crucible mark... 50 mats = 5 crucible mark... 120/5 = 24 24x50 = 1200 material... You'd rather farm 1000 relic iron instead playing a few hours of crucible? This completely boggles my mind, I'm not a big fan of pvp, but god that sounds tedious and boring. More tedious and boring than doing the same strikes or getting powned in pvp. The Devs at Destiny aren't pushing people to play pvp or pve, their pushing people to play their game period. In a generation where everything needs to be right now and exactly how you want it I'm not surprised about children crying when you replace their nipple with a warm bottle.