Guess what dude I wanted IB gear I played IB, I wanted raid gear I did the raid, I wanted crucible marks to buy emblems to rank up dead orbit on my 3 classes I played crucible. I wanted thorn I did crucible and didn't bitch about it. I have two thorns now. Like i said play crucible for crucible gear or stfu. And this is coming from someone who has way too many raid gear pieces, 3 full sets and a ton of spares. I'm a main PvE person. I learned to do crucible to get what I wanted. If ur too damn lazy to learn then u don't need the crucible gear.