Why are you assuming I am a pvp player? I play Destiny which has elements of pvp and elements of pve. I am simply making fun of a whiny post from a player who only does Patrols. The pvp vs pve debate is moronic. Do you really think that you should get Crucible marks from running in circles doing a Patrol. If you don't want to pvp, then don't, but you don't need Crucible marks. You really aren't missing anything by not getting them. You get much better gear from doing the raid, but if all you can do is Patrol, then the raid may be too difficult for you.