I guess if I carried a .48 k/d I'd probably hate the Crucible as well. And, please explain to me how farming spinmetal leaves should entitle you to gear that I have earned by actually playing in the Crucible? That's why there are crucible marks and vanguard marks. You buy crucible gear with marks you earn from playing in the crucible, you buy vanguard gear with vanguard marks you earn from doing PvE stuff. It seems pretty straightforward to me. And, just so you know, although I do prefer PvP to PvE, I don't hate it. Its just, in my opinion, it takes little to no skill to play PvE. Beating people is harder than beating AI.