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Edited by THX 007:
12/7/2014 7:27:13 AM
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A BIG F-U to PvE Players, Thanks Bungie
EDIT #1 BEGIN - Summary for those who missed the OP long a$$ complaint:
Removal of material exchange for vendor reputation and marks generated this post.
Using a Day 1 feature NOT exploit to access and buy legendary gear and avoid PvP for personal reasons.
EDIT #1 END
First we get a ton of mods to fix the PvP whining resulting in PvE nerfs, then 2 PvP events to 1 PvE but still more PvE nerfs.
Now take away more access to vendor weapons and armor to those of us who HATE PvP with a passion. I was fine farming for material and purchase Crucible items even though it was daunting. Never complained since I could avoid PvP.
What the heck was the logic behind removing material exchange for Crucible rep and marks?
I never saw any posts or complaints about resource exchange. If anything, it kept PvP haters like me away from ruining PvP games even more than they are already.
If this game was advertised as a PvP centric game with a scarce PvE element that would take a back seat to everything PvP I would have passed on it like I did with Titanfall and other PvP games.
Either bring back the material exchange for Crucible marks and rep, open all vendors to accept both currencies or I'll just play PvP to piss as many off as possible to obtain a K/D of 0.00.
If your going to ruin PvE, I'll do my part to ruin PvP as best that I can. Maybe I'll even be stoked to play Iron Banner 3.0 and shoot for the #1 spot in the worst PvP of all time.
Just as you have people that hate PvE, from reading the posts for the past couple of months, you have more that hate PvP.
Please tell us now that Destiny is 80% PvP and 20% PvE so we know where you stand.
All I know is after waiting and hoping Bungie would bring some love to PvE, all we got was a third and fourth kick in the balls.
After the expansion is released and there is still no resolution to this horrible PvE treatment, I'll waste my extra time playing even more like a complete noob in PvP just to piss as many people off as possible.
I'll highly recommend that others who feel the same do too.
If this was just "another" unintended side effect from a patch I may feel bad for ranting. If not, enjoy the last $ you'll see from me or anyone else who feels the same way.
If there is some great addition in the expansion to nullify this rant I truly apologize in advance.
BTW, it might help to post a list of the 100 worst PvP Guardians in your app. I would like to try and make the top 10 of that list.
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If you don't pvp you are not aloud to get pvp gear. Get over it. All I got from this post was, I'm not aloud to farm endlessly to trade stuff for pvp gear. The way it should be.
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9 RepliesI can totally relate. I hate pvp and liked to sell mats. I farmed mats while farming public events and chests, now it's completely pointless for me to do patrol. I just don't get why they removed it. I mean what is the harm in leaving it? It's not like you could abuse it to gain extra marks or mats using both systems. How am I supposed to create my own legacy/destiny (or whatever they say we are supposed to do) when Bungie is clearly doing it for me ?
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I'm on board with this plan. You want my horrible PvP self griefing matches in the Crucible? No problem. It'll be like when they come into my Patrols and run around the map farming and opening chests with no regard for other Guardians in the vicinity. Lets see how they like it.
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2 RepliesEdited by kilboy (Inept): 12/2/2014 8:30:35 AMYeah I'm happy with the change for people who prefer strikes/pvp to patrols but I don't understand why they removed the solo players option. Making 4 vendors pvp only really cuts down your gear options. Would have been better if they just combined vanguard and crucible marks into one currency from the start with a 200 cap. More choice in how you earn and where you spend. Then only one vendor is pure pve (vanguard) and one pure pvp (crucible) due to rep. I liked listening for chests :'( I'll be joining you in the top ten of terribad pvp suckiness. I haven't played pvp since Battlefield 2. XD
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as with Halo mp so it is with Destiny's player base. bungie/large business will always serve the short term/quick cummers.
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i could not agree more. i made a very similar rant in deej's thread yesterday. as did so many others. the problem is that bungie needs targets for the rapidly shrinking pvp crowd. pvp is cheap from a production point of view, pve content costs tons of money. this is why they are trying to "motivate" ppl to pvp, even those who do not like it. they simply need ppl to use cheap content. for pve they have to deliver new stuff every 2 months or ppl will leave. that is how it goes. for pvp a new map every 3 or 4 months, maybe a new mode variant here and there will do. keeping pvp alive is so much easier and cheaper.
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10 RepliesYes bring back the material exchange that no one ever used
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Ill be going back to my idol ways, dragging my team down each and every match. They took the only good way to get gear from 4 vendors away from pve players so pvp players get to deal with us now just sitting in the room dancing for crucible marks
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3 Repliesseriously, What do you possibly want from the Crucible vender so bad? aside from my early 20's, I no longer use anything that was purchased from the pvp vender because its all turd for PVE. You can't expect iron banner rewards without doing iron banner, you can't expect raid gear without doing the raid you can't expect enough coins to buy from Xur without doing the Weekly so why do you expect PVP gear without doing pvp
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I can't agree more. It's absolutely changed the way I play. Locking out pve players from five of the seven venders is a really dumb move, I've spent time levelling factions in pve so I can buy marks. And for those who say give crucible a chance, I have done. I got to rank five in IB, I play every now and again but it's awful. I'm bad at it, I don't enjoy it, 15 mins of something I don't enjoy just for two marks? Absolutely sucks
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I love this change personal. It works out for everyone. Don't like Pvp do tiger strikes. Sure I could listen to podcasts and farm but it's still boring. Plus mark were becoming useless. Because I'm running out of space in my vault. I love the patch Bungie good work.
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7 RepliesEven if you suck at pvp you get 2 marks every round, rounds take 8-12 mins. After 3 rounds you can get between 6-9 marks. Farming for materials is firstly boring and takes like 30 minutes to get roughly 20-40 if you know all the spots. 40 mins give or take to get 50 materials giving 5 marks. Terrible way to gain crucible marks. I personally never even used the exchange because of this reason
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I'm not a big fan of PvP in this game, but the thing I hated with a passion was the retarded farming. I love Bungie for finally fixing their game and removing that crap.
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I don't see why you're ranting, the vanguard and crucible gear has been low quality since people now run vog a lot. In the dlc these gear and weapons will become even more obsolete.
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1 ReplyBest thing about the PvP is when one sucks at it, it's most likely that he gets the best rewards
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I wish this game would just DROP PVP. It would be a lot better, we could actually have weapons that feel special without shooting a Whiney kid in the face with it. Destiny is intended to be primarily a pve game. The pvp is added more for shits n giggles.
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Actually after I have had time to ponder why it was removed. Was removed due to a loop hole issue. Use you marks to buy as many mats as possible then turn the mats in for reduced rate on marks and rep. Though you would run out eventually kinda a loop hole. But I agree should not have been removed completely, just need to be modified.
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So much for pve being the core of this game lol you guys prove pvp is the main factor after every update. Not come play with the big boys when you're tired of shooting AI.
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Stop complaining
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Shut up meg
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Wow your dumb
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7 Repliesi am a PVE ONLY player and i LOVE the decision they made! once you have bought every weapon and armor you wcould possibly want to buy, there was nothing left to do with the marks. and now i can safe so much time by just spending a couple of vanguard marks <3
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5 RepliesDude, I'm not the biggest fan of PvP either, but I don't think Bungie caters to PvP players over PvE players at all. All the new DLC is PvE content, the only way to get to the level cap is through PvE (minus the limited Iron Banner week), all the best legendary gear comes through PvE. I get it- you want access to faction gear without having to play PvP and you're pissed about the changes. You're entitled to play the way you want to play- you paid for the game after all. But if you're going to "get back at Bungie" by entering PvP matches and ruin that experience for everyone else, not only is that petty and immature, but it's probably a good way to get banned from the Crucible, thus completely removing any chance at that PvP faction gear you covet so much yet don't want to play PvP to get. The people who enjoy PvP also paid for the game and are entitled to play it without someone intentionally stepping in and throwing matches out of spite. The game is designed to be played a certain way for different rewards. Part of that is getting in the crucible and earning marks for the faction gear. I think you just might have to suck it up and jump in. Hey, you might even start to enjoy it once you learn the maps and get a little experience with it.
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Stopped reading after a while, but I don't see how PvE is ruined.
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To get the most out of this game you shouldnt be a pve or pvp player. you should be PvP&E.
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Edited by ManBearPigIets: 12/2/2014 9:30:13 AMI actually love pvp. But I also love pve, and I still think this was a stupid idea. It takes 10 times as long to get that many marks for material compared to getting the material in the first place, it was far better to be able to exchange them the other way like before. Hell, why not just have both conversions available?
