I don't understand why people say grinding for mats takes to long. Takes no time at all to get them. Plus you can get glimmer while doing it. My biggest complaint is I have all these guns and armor that I cant upgrade because they screw you on ascendent materials. I have tried to find people to do the raid with but haven't yet. I do the weekly and daily stuff but never eatn enough.I have tried the nightfall but since I can't get my guns upgraded I can't get through it. Hell this app even says these things can be earned by playing the crucible. I have yet to see anybody get anything from that. Now I can't even get my faction rank up at a decent pace since they took this away. To all the people saying just do PVP, why couldn't you just farm for materials.