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Edited by Beyond Evolution:
12/3/2014 3:09:18 AM
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BNG: Why did you remove Materials for Marks?
When I 1st read the patch notes I was excited to see the addition of Marks for Upgrade Materials. Finally I would have something else to spend my excess Vanguard marks on. I always like when games offer you options. If you needed extra marks, you could exchange some materials, now if you need extra materials you could trade in some marks.
Of course, that excitement was quickly dashed when I discovered that you REPLACED the (Materials for Marks) with the (Marks for Materials).
Why? Do you guys have some personal grudge against choices and options? Why does everything have to be [b]one way OR the other[/b]. Why won't you provide multiple options instead of limiting us to just one? Why can't you let your players decide what they prefer to do instead of forcing everything to be all or nothing?
Instead of letting people choose if they want to play PvP or PvE, you seem to be trying to push people into both. * Why not just let people enjoy the parts of Destiny they love without punishing them for it? *
By replacing the material exchange, people have no choice but to run the crucible if they want to purchase anything from the faction vendors. Where before, if you didn't want to run the crucible, you could farm some materials, trade them in for marks, than spend them on the faction vendors.
Well, not anymore...
I just don't understand.
* Why couldn't you just remove the (reputation/glimmer) gains and leave the option to trade materials for marks? At an exchange rate of 5 to 1, would being able to swap one type of Mark for another really have been so bad? *
* You provided so many great new ways to aquire extra materials, than took away the only other feature they could be used for. *
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* The best way to make players happy is to give them more choices, not less. It doesn't have to be one exchange OR the other, with a few adjustments you could have both. *
*[edits]*
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6 RepliesThis update is why I am now going to quit this game. I've been getting Material saved up for Marks and now I can't do ANYTHING with them. Thank You Bungie for being a bunch of idiots. You got my money for the expansion, when I knew I should have quit while I was just bored with playing by myself (everyone I know that wants to play with actual friends in a proper "fireteam" have quit) I will go back to playing Battlefield 4.
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I agree with you.. It can be three ways.. I was exchanging materials to marks to just buy weapons too.. And yes i like to play PvE more than laggy pvp, so i get lots of materials that once i exchanged 800 spinmetal for it.. So just bcos of few people have lazy ass to get materials they changed it? i think, If you can do pvp it will be really easy for people to collect materials in five minutes, but if people dont like pvp, it is really hard to get retarded crucible marks.. Also instead, they would have put a rotation on quartermasters for weapon change by xx hours so we didnt even need to talk about this things.. They can even just add vanguard mark exchange with crucible thou.. that can make some difference.. But noooo they have to find something weird.. like 10 mark for 20 spinmetal lol
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1 ReplyI luckily got my dead orbit shotgun after trading in 1000 materials for an achievement and then forcing myself to play crucible for the rest. But now my options are fried entirely. No more faction stuff for me i guess.. #cheesed
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1 ReplyPlease but back the option to sell Spinmetal, Relic Iron, Spirit Bloom, and Helium Filaments. Thank you.
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1 ReplyOh what you've done to the dog. As I can't stand crucible, I will not be purchasing any expansions until it becomes clear that PvP won't be shoved down our throats. I understand it's easier for Bungie to create PvP maps and call it "content"than it is to develop storyline and relevant PvE material, but if you want any more of my money you'll have to cater to the PvE element of the game.
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And now the same, stupid, and repetitive bounties are handing out upgrade materials and I have nothing to use them on and I damn sure can't sell them. So what am I to do with them once I accumulate so much that I have no more space in either my vault or inventory??? Bungie is destroying this game.
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1 ReplyI totally agree with you on this. I dont play crucible. Ive played years of COD and halo and now i hate that kinda game. I play Star wars the old republic online and hate the PVP but there is a shed load of content to keep us PVE players happy! I love the new option to trade marks for materials coz ive probably done over a hundred hours of grinding to get these destination materials and this saves me time to do things i enjoy doing more in the game. But again i dont wanna play crucible so now there is 0% of me gaining crucible marks therefore 3/4 of the games weapons and gear is inaccessable to me. Talk about feeling neglected by Bungie
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36 RepliesBecause about 1% of players used that feature and about 100% of players will use the new feature.
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1 Replywell its all about people enjoying the game and a lot of people many thousands who play the game , don't like the crucible, I being one them . I have farmed thousands of materials in order to exchange them for crucible marks etc... I am so disappointed that you cannot exchange them now for marks . so this is forcing people to enter the crucible to get the marks , that's not what the game is about forcing people to do something they do not enjoy . TOTALL UNPHAPPY WITH THIS NEW CHANGE Aaaaarrrgggghhhhh .........
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3 RepliesDammit! Really?!? I've been casually gaming destiny the last month, and building my Dead Orbit rank up so i can buy the skull and crossed axes insignia, and was going to trade in mats for the marks to buy it. I don't pvp because i don't like it and am not good at it either. Thanks for invalidating the time time i spent on building it up. @Bungie or Deej, why did you do it? Couldn't we have kept the Mats for marks and gotten the marks for mats as well? Or would that be considered cheesing as well? Was the Vendor OP? In other words, What possible reason was there for this change? Only true reason i can see is that people might question the imbalanced exchange rate, but thats it. Also anyone notice that exotics are now cheaper and easier to upgrade than legendaries? the only slow point in upgrades would be getting the exotic shard.... which can be bought from xur with SC's as opposed to legendaries requiring substantial numbers of ascendant mats. I really hope the DLC is good, cause these half thought out changes are making me flinch. Don't get me wrong the patches are 'ok', but the changes just don't seem to be properly implemented or thought through as well as they should and appear half-assed.
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3 RepliesI do agree with you. This patch is just a big slap in the face of players who don't like to play the Crucible, whatever their reasons. Bungie just deleted the options to do only PvE yet have access to faction gear. Slowly but surely, they are killing any fun PvE players would still find in their game... Instead of enticing me to play PvP, this patch is simply giving me a reason to shelve it and move along. Thanks, Bungie, for a great ride while it lasted. Too bad you ended it too soon for us PvE players!
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Cry me a -blam!-ing river little baby.
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1 ReplyEdited by diegofreak: 12/2/2014 11:35:31 AMGiven all the hype and tools and options, I think when they said "BECOME LEGEND", they meant "become whatever we tell you to be"....that's how it feels like. Every day we are forced to a path we don't like, how players will become their own legend if there's no freedom of choices?
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4 RepliesI just don`t get this at all, now we will all be stuck with far too many materials and due to the fact the only use for them now is to upgrade weapons and armor only! (no trading). I thought the old system was good and worked well, there are plenty of materials kicking around to pick up and they constantly re-spawn, so i do not see the need to have to buy them, but I`m guessing this is the way it is now. Could we at least have some extra storage space in the vaults to accommodate for all this extra stuff we will be picking up? Otherwise we will just have to keep throwing materials away, which seems kinda wrong somehow lol
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5 RepliesIm happy with the new change, had 200 marks of each in my 3 characters.
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21 RepliesTotally agree. Stop forcing players who hate pvp play crucible to earn marks. Any team with these people participating will suffer. Good luck winning if you're on my team because I'm one of them. Pvp is full of vultures who prey on the weak like me. Taking my choice away is not what i want in my gaming experience
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Absolutely this. Bungie effed up major. I hate the crucible
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2 RepliesI agree, and have been saying it since the update went live. Stop subtracting. Just add.
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6 RepliesIf they hadn't taken it off, whats to stop you from just buying materials for vanguard marks, and then selling those same materials for crucible marks and reputation... That would be some BS, and a slap in the face to anyone to who ever grinds in the crucible...
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Edited by issacstern16: 12/3/2014 9:03:22 AMAgree 100% !
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You took the thoughts right out my head! I agree with everything you posted It has been depressing playing since the changes have actually played less! No sense in gathering materials I have way too many nothing to do with them. I would prefer they had reduced the amount of rep and glimmer than take it out all together. Bungie please fix this by the new dlc drop. I have been hooked on destiny and now the thrill is gone!
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3 RepliesIm really disappointed in this change, im sure there wasn't a mention of the removal of mats > marks in the notes. I log in, go to check it out and realize its gone. I now have around 1500 mats sitting around and more on the way with the new ways of getting them, which I do every day on 3 toons. So, I just destroy them? I don't hugely enjoy PVP, didn't realize you HAD to do it. Its not like the gear that's purchased with Crucible has any PVP stats, its just gear with different stat allocation with no extra PVP benefit. So all the people that wanted faction gear, for what ever reasons and that don't like PVP will now be forced to either not play or AFK through Crucible, nice. I do enjoy PVE, don't get to raid much or do the weeklies each week but I do the daily bounties, public event and just enjoy running around trying new weapons and blowing things away. Doing this on 3 toons nearly gets me maxed Vanguard. I do strikes and enjoy them to make the difference up. While out in the world I made a point of getting chests and mats, now the only possible reason to do so is hoping to get the chests that give blue engrams. I realize there may have been a worry about people swapping Vanguard > Crucible and getting the rep. Ive done it. Think its how I got the majority of the 2 levels of Crucible faction. But again, who cares? Not like the weapons/armor have anything PVP special about them, just gives some more choice. I have all the Vanguard weapons I need, nearly all the armor I need on all 3 toons. I suppose with the new DLC coming out that may change as the Vanguard vendors get new gear. In short even though its a small change that a lot of people might not see the issue with it causes a whole lot of problems by removing a lot of the choice people have in what gear they get and how they play the game. I imagine it will cut my play time by at least half, proberly more. Hope this was just a mistake...
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6 RepliesThis patch pretty much destroyed my desire to play Destiny. I have no luck whatsoever with legendary drops (two, two freaking purples) and farming materials for crucible marks was one of my few methods for getting legendaries. And now it's gone, and with it my irrational compulsion to play this game.
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4 RepliesI had just noticed this after the patch, I have more than enough to trade is on several materials but bungie in their wisdom decided to punish those that dont pvp. I am not a fan of pvp unless its iron banner to get the gear. Bungie needs to put the material exchange back in and not screw with something that's not broken...sometimes to not ruin a game all you need to do is leave what's not broken alone
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3 RepliesI completely agree with the OP. I live this game... Truly love it, but I hate the Crucible. Farming was my work around. This really cripples the game for me. Seriously, why not just add features instead of replacing features? You can hardly go it alone anymore. Very frustrating.
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1 ReplyEdited by spaceme17: 12/2/2014 12:49:01 PMI agree with op. Bungie, please stop removing options from the game. Stop closing off parts of the game to people who don't play PvP. Or make PvP worth playing by removing the RNG reward system and increasing the number of marks per match.
