I know KoB ans Sa0 are in an alliance but I think I frendly rivalry can take place. Now the admins can figure out the time and date but I think both should find out who is stronger. The idea is for both groups for one week "train" or pull together people and beat the raid on normal (or hard) and finish it as fast as possible and record the time. This will cause there to be more activity and hopefully more people in KoB and more friends and info beings share on both groups. Just and idea