This was my reply to a post saying warlocks take no skill to use and that warlock gnades are OP, also a guy said defender titans have to know when to use their bubble and all this bs that usually comes with it... anyway here you go. Also he says nova bomb takes no skill to aim, I agree with him when it comes to short ranges not long ranges, but what super do you really have to aim that hard at short ranges? (gunslinger outrage ensues, no it's not that hard to aim that thing). No skill huh? Shame that I got a triple kill at point B by AIMING my nova bomb while standing at C flag (on the Rusted Lands map, so you should be aware just how much shite there is between point C and B and thus the dumb trajectory you'd have to send the nova bomb at), as a defender titan you just press LB + RB (xbox) and boom death prevented, PvP you basically always want the shield buff and it doesn't take as much decision making as you make it seem... People say warlock grenades are OP and I'll only agree with you on fusion gnade but titan and hunter grenades do these things just as well if not better... The arc gnades of both classes do shit-tons of zoning for AGES and so does tripmine/weird 1000 flying mini-bombs gnade. Magnetic gnade for titan; don't get me started. And all this non-sense, blink is not unlimited for constant use, you have to ration it during extended encounters and decide on whom to use your super to extend survivability (not that major just point and shoot, point taken, no super really takes above average skill to use decently). Hunters also have blink; regardless of class, shotty + blink = insta-douchebag. Striker titan super, actually better than voidwalker's... harder to notice you using it and blink usually won't get you out of range, I may have dodged a max of 2 of them vs countless nova bombs so stop crying, titan bubble OP in control unless a voidwalker has super, don't say it's not... but I guess it also makes nova bomb situationally OP. Blink, the main outplay I use vs supers and general gunfights to survive, you still have to keep track of all your enemies which can be hard at close range but if you can it's very effective, in large open spaces you're screwed, in tight enclosed places you're screwed, in places with space but decent cover; perfect you can move unpredictably and outplay your opponent. Sunsinger... Radiance plus gnades that hit multiple targets (up to 3) then burns from those... gnade spam = insta win, I know I've done it, solar shield, I've won numerous fights vs a shotty with this using just melee, OP, 1 hits once per super essentially, kinda OP but not really... People cry about self-res... they take like 5 secs to do it, just run moron and spray them, you've got the advantage here, or don't spray and just run; also it doesn't take their death away, just gives them another opportunity to die. Axion bolts OP? No just run you cretins... you see one land by you? Run, don't challenge the fight, I'll just shoot you in the head twice and you'll be dead from the axion, range is OP? Once more just run, it only does 55% max hp dmg so you can run regen then stop and get hit. When one lands by be I just run and blink and shit, max like 1 in 5 of those kill me unless it's a good one or within an intense firefight... Axion bolt-blink-melee combo OP, yes but chance of success is small if the moron with the shotty has any clue of what's going on... also if you hear the blindingly obvious sound of the axion gnade trigger when you run into the area run away you daft shit... Gunslinger super, no it doesn't take aim tbh, if you can't hit the target 70%+ of the time, quit PvP right now, the reason why people are so bothered about golden gun is because it can kill cross map with relative ease of aim, unlike all other supers excl sunsinger (if you are a god with gnades) or nova bomb (if you are a god with this, or get lucky; either way it's rare, being good with gnades helps). [spoiler]Nova bomb can be a pain in the ass to use in enclosed spaces[/spoiler] [spoiler]Not any of the others...[/spoiler] In the end the classes are all OP in different ways which kinda evens it out... The 'no skill part' is generally associated with fusion rifles and shotguns (shotgun + warlock blink = people saying warlock doesn't take skill because of the few nobs that use shotguns and blink so you get killed by them then cry that warlocks take no skill)... If you aware situationally aware and know how to build your skill tree to cater to you and your weapons/playstyle you will be OP now everyone stop crying XD if you're so mad that a class is OP in crucible make one and then go use it [spoiler]you'll be dissapointed to find you're wrong[/spoiler] Also if this post doesn't get many replies I will bump it myself all I want, not writing this wall of text just to waste my time...