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11/27/2014 8:05:30 AM
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The Failings of Bungie: You May (Not) Become Legend

After having played destiny for a good few weeks (Bungie shows a good six and a half or so days of in-game time), I felt driven to write up a critique on its major failings. These are both from my personal experiences and the experiences I've read online from others. This is a two part critique on the areas I feel Bungie has failed the most, though they result in the same thing. But before I begin, I'd like to say that Destiny is a good game. It's just that it could have been so much more... Destiny: become legend. Or rather, Destiny: become whatever is given to you and feel grateful. When I first went through the story, everything was new and somewhat exciting, but not only that, everything was different. Guns ran through my hands like water, and I experienced a wide variety of perks and stats and looks. But when I reached level 20, this all came to a halt. Guns no longer ran thorugh my hands. Instead, I was devoid of anything new, anything likable. Eventually, I found Xur, the Vanguard store, and the factions, and I began my quest to become like everyone else. The armor didn't have stats I liked, but I needed the light. They didn't have the perks I wanted, but I needed the light. It was going to take weeks to earn the marks to buy them, but I needed the light. At first, I didn't upgrade any of the vanguard pieces because I hated them. I held onto my energies and shards like scrooge with his precious gold, but in the end: I needed the light. By now, I've become much more pliable: I don't scrimp my ascendent materials, because more likely than not, what I want is never going to happen. Destiny has turned me into a pessimist. Whatever happened to "Become Legend?" Look at the legends in game. Kabr refused to be bowed down, and ripped the face off of a Gorgon to make a shield. What a guy. Toland pursued knowledge to the bitter end, eventually going mad. Dredgen Yor felt darkness embracing him, and decided to embrace it back. Me? I'm a nobody. A nobody in a sea of nobodies doing nobody things and buying nobody items. We run the same nobody quests and strikes and turn in the same nobody bounties. We're not legends: we're nobodies. When I look at my fellow warlocks, I see my face on every one. The one who molded my character molded each and every one of them, and we all look the same and use the same weapons. Everyone wears the voidfang vestments nowadays. There's no reason not to, and more likely than not, it's one of the few exotics they've had the chance to own. Guns? They're so rare, just like the armor. You either buy what Xur is selling or buy from a faction. End of story. You're "Legend." I don't feel legend. I don't feel unique. I feel empty. Which leads to my second point, which is the fullness of Destiny. No, this is not about the story. This is about the dichotomy of what I have been told and what truly is. They tell me that we are on the losing side. Earth, Mars, Venus, the Moon, the rest of the known universe: all are held in a stranglehold by the darkness. The earth is empty. The moon is calm. Where is the chaos? Where is the overwhelming darkness? Where is the need for guardians? Patrol feels so empty. I stroll through the hive for no reason. I collect spinmetal plants under gunfire because I simply don't care. If they tell me Mr. Nexus has overstayed his welcome on Venus, I deliver an eviction notice. Aksor broke his curfew? Reign him back in. The Psions got out? Put a belt to their backside. A phrase comes to mind "Born too late to explore the world, too early to explore the universe." This is what playing destiny feels like. The fall seems so interesting, but it's over and done. People like Kabr and Toland and Dredgen played their parts. On the flipside, the impending darkness is too far away to be dealt with, too remote to encounter. Our guardians live in a time of peace, striving not to survive, but to simply find adventure wherever they can. Guardians are not legends: they are bored. Strikes are boring. The dailies are boring. Patrol is boring. In the end, you do your weekly, your nightfall, your dailies, your raid, and your farming, and that's it. Evil doesn't care, and neither do you. You're both just going through the motions. The fallen aren't actually maintining strength on earth, they just want to look like it. The hive don't actually care about the moon, they just felt like building a fortress. The cabal don't really care that you're on mars, they just get their jollies from shooting off explosives. You're not really in a struggle for your life against the forces of darkness, you're just doing whatever you feel like. Where are the front lines to this great battle? Commander, send me to the front! I want action! I want to feel like I'm making a difference in this universe! I don't want to be an errand boy any longer! I don't want to post any more eviction notices! But there is no war. There is only mundanity and repitition. There is a faceless darkness that is halfheartedly taking over the universe. It will take over the last bastion of men not by force, but by boring us to death. Conclusion: I am a nobody being bored to death by a faceless entity. I'm the futuristic, space magic-ey equivalent of a man-child in his grandma's basement thinking he's sticking it to the man. In reality, I'm doing nothing, and the man doesn't care. I want to feel like I am the master of my own destiny, not like I'm living off the charity of Lakshmi (though she is very charitable, and I love her for it) and Lord Saladin (ty for the boots and gloves m8, appreciate it). I want to feel like the darkness truly is trying to destroy mankind, not like it's sitting on its respective planets, sipping martinis. [b]I want to feel not only like I'm making a difference, but that there's a difference that needs to be made. [/b]

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  • Great post

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  • Edited by TheDaddy3k: 11/27/2014 10:03:42 PM
    You sir, deserve a cookie... bravo for the post! Eloquent, simple, and very well done. I agree with all points presented.

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  • Bungie really needs to read this.

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  • Some good points made here.

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  • Bravo couldn't have put it better. don't forget Shin Malphur.

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  • Edited by Hope499: 11/27/2014 3:44:15 PM
    Some of that I disagree with..... [quote]They didn't have the perks I wanted, but I needed the light. It was going to take weeks to earn the marks to buy them, but I needed the light. [/quote] your telling me that Dead orbit, new monarchy, vangaurd, crucible AND future war cult had NOTHING that interested you??? [quote]Everyone wears the voidfang vestments nowadays. There's no reason not to, and more likely than not, it's one of the few exotics they've had the chance to own. [/quote] Not sure what game your playing.....but I never wear it unless I pvp....I own every warlock exotic, and thats far from the best. [quote]Guns? They're so rare, just like the armor.[/quote] I like to earn my gear, and I like it rare...I hate running around with the same shit as everyone else..... Most of your other points I do agree with tho.....this game be getting STALE as hell, even PvP is getting really old...but i guess thats what happens when you have ONE game mode bungie.....

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    • Got to agree. The only time I felt like the enemies were actually doing stuff( productively- rather than just chiilin' waiting to be killed)was when I did a 'eleminate the target' patrol mission. I was expecting a generic servitor or vandal but insted it was a less powerful version of the Devil Archon (2nd mission)!! It was amazing.

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    • Incredibly well written and more importantly, it perfectly captures what feels off about destiny. I love the game itself. The gunplay and the abilities specific to each subclass all feel good to me (I have a guardian of each class) but there's no sense of urgency. I log in and play in order to grind towards a goal that's not necessary or pressing. There needs to be a little something more to drag me back in!

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    • "Every guardian will be unique" - Bungie

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    • I am truly passionate about this game and will continue to play it, but you are correct friend, and you managed to do something nobody else does: critique this game without attacking it or its players, bravo.

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      • Petition to have Destiny II based around the fall itself.

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      • It makes me sad but this is so true. If it wasn't for the crucible and the fact that destiny has become a vehicle for me to hang with old college buddies, I would've given it up long ago. The grind is a normal thing in mmo style games but in destiny the grind is such a hollow experience. Only thing that makes any of it fun is friends.

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        • if there was no crucible, and you could only have 1 character (removes the ability to farm raids/weeklys) this game would be 1/10 if that. just goes to show how little content this game has, and it's saving grace (if they're even worthy of that title) is the crucible and the raid/weeklys.

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          • Not enjoying the game? We assure you that you can increase your excitement for only $20 of stuff you should already have.

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          • I know what you mean but .... do you really think its possible to be unique in games that are played worldwide by lets say 1 000 000 players ? I just think this is not possible ... look at games like wow ... many high levels have the same stuff ... only there they are even more difficult to obtain.... I think you just have to game to have some fun with some friends ... no game keeps you interested for years and years ... Thats my opinion ... kind regards

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            • I feel ya man

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            • I just want to say have you gone through the nightfall or heroic solo without doing the consistent of sitting in the back waiting for the chaos to die down in order to hit the main boss. They give you a big field to kill adds. Yes we are doing repetitions of same strikes, but they got me use to certain field advantages for nightfall. Each week I run threw it faster knowing which active burn I have to use. I feel like a legend looking back at my adventures on the app. But if they did incorporate better public events where it does seem like the evil is trying to bring end to us all, where we do in fact have to run at list 12 strong to keep the hordes of enemies collapsing in our wake.

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              • Yes

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              • I myself love destiny but I do have to agree with some of what was said. Very well put together. I remember in my WoW days you'd be hanging out at the auction house and then suddenly you see in general chat "Stormwind in under attack" Right then you'd stop what your doing, hurry to throw on your PVP gear and get ready to fight shoulder to shoulder with some random Allies to protect your city from killing everyone of importance. Besides the end game content and the massive world that each realm offered, this one part was the most fun that I actually had in game, it drove me to find the best gear so I could actually contribute to the defense of the allied cities. Maybe they could look at doing something similar. Spawn random majors who's level and difficulty increase as the waves continue. Kind of like the protect the Warsaw PE, but on a bigger scale at the tower. Imagine getting a distress call while farming material that the city is under attack and we Guardians must defend it! I'd be stoked

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                  Exactly.

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                • awesome post. Another thing that really bugs me and also doesnt give a sense of urgency, is that you never really "defend" anything. Dinklebot could be decrypting that object for days while you pitch a tent in some hole, have a campfire, make smores, sing kum.......yeah.

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                • Anyone know if dragon age is any good?

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                  • You pulled the words out of mouth. This is what I feel is missing from Destiny. The game is fun in itself, but it is missing that sense of apocalypse. The sense that enemies have control of these planets, and that we are pushing back these enemies and reclaiming what was ours. It's just walk in, get what we need, and walk out. It feels like we dominate these planets and they are invading our day-to-day lives, not the other way around.

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                  • Agreed, unfortunately Bungie seems to not care and their only response is to charge you $25 for an additional 2 hours of gameplay. This is my first and last Bungie game, they screwed this up and I doubt their Destiny plans for the future are going to be achieved. Way to many people pissed off at Bungie and Destiny.

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