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11/8/2014 6:56:11 AM
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It seems to me that the things you've noted as assets of the Hunter are things that can be easily accomplished by other classes or are last ditch efforts to save a floundering team.
In my experience a relic holder should not need speed, as an example. The team should come to him.
Offing oracles fast is something a nice heavy weapon, especially raid found heavy weapon, can accomplish.
Same for supplicants.
On the other hand, nothing a hunter or even a Titan can do can match the "get out of jail free card" that is the self Rez of the sunsinger.
And few things can match the wonderful ward for stopping that stupid Templar from teleporting...
Except maybe an invisible Hunter. :)
But overall I have to agree with the hunter-hate on this one. We just aren't as highly valued in the raid. As someone with a hunter as my primary that isn't easy to accept, but I'm afraid it is the truth.
Hunters aren't useless. They can dps with the best, and are the least of a liability in the gorgon maze. But overall our abilities fall just a bit short of what the other classes potentially bring to the table.
I'm personally hoping for some kind of buff that helps us out. (Couple it with the pvp nerf everyone seems to so desperately want, I couldn't care less)
Or even better, maybe a third subclass that is more team/support focused.
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I want us to have an official support class so the hate stops but were hardly useless. I can't speak for other Hunters, but I prize precision and in the cog that's a huge help
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Just checked your profile. Your longest life in the raids is 30 minutes. You're a sloppy player who puts your share of the work on your team mates shoulders. I repeat, WARLOCK REVIVE IS FALSE CONFIDENCE lol!
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I <3 your username
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I <3 you, let's make babies.
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This isn't even close to a fair statement. 30 minutes in the raid is pretty good by my estimation. And I certainly carry my weight.
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Maybe in normal.... But even so, it proves you do not play safe, you run around dying and reviving.
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Fine, bro. You win. I could "only" live for 30 minutes in one of the most difficult challenges in the game. I must be sloppy.
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As a hunter, as a squishy, useless, no talent hunter, my longest life is an hour. You're garbage, Bro. You die, way to much. But it's a game and I truly give two shits either way.
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You obviously care enough to get quite defensive despite the fact that I fully support that hunters aren't useless. And no one but you mentioned squishy. And you must care quite a bit to degenerate to attacks like you just did.
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Yes, you got me. I care. Lol. And squishy was stated multiple times other users on this thread. I am just stating a fact not attacking you. Your player skills are lacking.
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Golden gun = ammo conservation, so no one needs to fire heavy weapons. Actually I don't think I've ever used heavy weapons on oracles . And, templar relic, yes everyone comes to you. Nothing is better than being able to get out of a tight situation. Titans and warlocks cannot, quit hating on your main. Hunters are very useful, everywhere. Warlocks and that false confidence of having an extra life smh. Titans are replaced by THE RELIC lol.
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Who needs ammo conservation? Ammo drops regularly, and we all have stacks of ammo synth. Are you saying golden guns big appeal is you no longer need to use one of your guns? Cause that seems pretty lame. Why not just use the heavy and have a special ability that does something else? Then your heavy isn't entirely wasted? To be fair though I never use either on oracles. I've never been in such a pinch that could be saved by dropping several oracles fast with golden gun or a heavy weapon. Vision of confluence seems to take them out just fine. And nothing you could possibly come up with could convince me that warlocks self Rez isn't the bee's knees. "False confidence" or not, it works. If you don't play any sloppier, which I assume at least some wouldn't, you'd have a great player with a fail safe. I'm not saying hunters are useless, I'm not even saying they aren't useful, I'm just saying the other classes, especially a sunsinger, is more useful in the raid.
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We are referring to atheon, not the entire raid, you do not or at least should not be scavenging for ammo or digging through your inventory for your synth. You should be prepared. So having full rockets/secondary is key to a quick easy hard atheon kill. So! This means on oracles, having a free kill/primary ammo to waste is ideal. Two hunters can do oracles without using anything but golden guns. While you are wasting everything on them, you did mention heavy weapons after all. Plus your special recharges immediately during vengeance. Titans are not need at all in the raid, warlocks only offer a temp solution to playing sloppy which most warlocks do. Because you have that extra life, you care little until you die then you start putting in effort.
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I've never really had too much of an issue with ammo fighting atheon. It just doesn't seem like something worth having a special relegated to fixing. And again you broadly generalize the warlocks. They can't all be sloppy.
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Come on, we all know y'all pander about shooting, acting hard and taking damage. Then die, revive and run away from the fight. EVERYONE knows that. I'm just stating facts, not generalizing anything. Maybe, just maybe a handful aren't sloppy players, but I mean a handful. As opposed to every hunter who's completed a legit hard raid.
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You continue to generalize and defend hunters for no better reason than it's the class you like. Like there aren't sloppy hunters? You called me sloppy, and my main is a hunter. Maybe you should give the other classes a serious shot. And not be so "classist". :p
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I have a Titan on a separate account, and plan on making a lock. I'm just stating a fact. I defend them because they are always frowned upon, so much that they are being kicked from raids (prolly because they aren't holding there own) but I digress, I'm classiest, you have me there. I love the hunter. And my cape rocks.
