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originally posted in: Are science and religion compatible?
Edited by Gross1985: 11/6/2014 9:02:17 PM
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Didn't Einstein once say that science & religion stem from the same tree? The earth is billions of years old, although we learned recently that it's much older than we thought. The whole "thousand years old" thing probably just has to do with Adam coming into the world. Even then there were civilizations long prior, such as Sumer. Some argue that such ancient civilizations might have been populated with extraterrestrial lifeforms, or even "ancient astronauts". There's even an example of a possible ancient astronaut documented in the Tanakh (often known as the Old Testament to us Christians), specifically in the story about Ezekiel, one "Ezekiel's Wheel", which some claim was an extraterrestrial ship that came from a vision he had.....though there's a claim that his visions may have been drug-induced. The problem is that the Tanakh has a ton of grey spots. Plus, people didn't know measurements, such as time measurement, like we do now. We don't know how long those seven days lasted, the seven days in which the world was created. Those seven days couldn't have lasted 24 hours each. Then long after Creation, before the story of Noah's Ark, there's stories about a race of giants that roamed the earth (the surface of Earth, that is), a story about the "Sons of God", "Daughters of Men", and subsequently the Nephilim (the offspring of the Sons of God & Daughters of Men). There is no precise measurement of time during or inbetween these events, or the other events further described in the Tanakh. My mom has also told me that scientists more and more are agreeing that there might just be some higher power, possibly God, who is responsible for a lot of things that can't be yet explained by science. Though, still, science is a very nice field of study, and I'd be stupid to deny what good science can offer to us (biotech, nanotech, [url=http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140715/NEWS04/307150068/Marine-paralyzed-by-sniper-s-bullet-walks-use-exoskeleton]things like this[/url], etc). But I believe that there are things in life that can't be properly explained, because in life, anything is possible. Just because something is unrealistic doesn't mean it's impossible. Though that's not to say that the unexplainable is always the work of God. In fact, I don't think people in this day and age could have the capacity to speak of what God wants in us....except maybe the Pope, but the reality is that a Pope is elected by people in the Vatican. I guess I don't understand how people find it necessary to be one-or-the-other when it comes to science & religion. Both can work hand in hand.....but, then again, that's just my outlook. Maybe it all depends on a person's preference. I, on the other hand, am probably just nonchalant, refusing to be fanatical about either side. [b][u]TL;DR[/u][/b] I voted Yes.
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  • But wouldn't you have to compromise on your scientific integrity to be religious? Or vice versa?

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  • I don't see why I need to, because I don't think it's such a black and white issue. Though I'm not denying that there are people who are separatist about it, but that's their own problems, because they're trying to keep the two totally separate, expecting each other to say "F*ck it," to whatever their previous opinions were before converting (for lack of a better word) to the other side.

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