I agree. It's getting hard to find a raid group that doesn't want to cheese either the Templar or Atheon. It's getting annoying. Also I have a level 30 Hunter and was able to beat the raid on Hard. It's not just class but play style. My main is a 29 Warlock, so I have to adjust my play style every time I switch to my Hunter. Supers are useful but Hunters can still do fine if they are in the right hands.