I finished the raid legit the first couple times on both normal and hard. But as time went on, my raid group was looking for faster ways to complete the raid. That's how we learned about cheesing Atheon and the Templar. We do it because it saves us time. Most members of my group have jobs and kids to take care of. We also run more that six members through the raid. We help out others even though we've done the raid ourselves and get no rewards for it. I'm sure this isn't the way Bungie expected things to be. The fact that they're going to patch it is proof of that. And Ill glady honor their decision once the patch hits. Until then we'll cheese the hell out of Atheon and the temp . EDIT: Even though I'll honor their decision to patch cheesing Atheon, I wont honor their decision to allow Atheon to teleport 3 random people.