Coming from someone who rarely plays PvP..... I couldn't agree more. There ABSOLUTELY should be level 30 crucible gear that caters to PvP play style. The hypocrisy in some of the posts here is flat out hilarious. Some say that the raid is the hardest part of the game and they deserve that gear for completing it. Then another says that "it only takes an hour" hmmm.. If it only takes an hour then it can't be that hard. I bet it took longer than an hour for those level 30 raid masters to complete the PvP section of their exotic bounties. I've completed the raid 3 times and participated in more. The raid truly isn't that challenging with the right team once the repetitive strategy is figured out but... that isn't the point. The point is that PvP players don't want RAID gear. They want their own top tier crucible gear. And let's be honest..... A lot of the level 30 raid trolls would get their asses handed to them in PvP. Level 30 is really just a number but it should be obtainable regardless of how you like to play the game. To me the real questions are- what kind of challenge should be presented to the PvP community in order to achieve that level 30 crucible gear? And... When is Bungie gonna address this issue?