We are again at the last checkpoint in the VOG raid. We almost had it completed last night but could not quite come up with 6 players. For those of you talking about the "pushing Atheon off" strategy; see Bungie's patch notes, they added "bowling bumpers" or baby bumpers to the area where he would be pushed off. Additionally, and we discovered this a little last night, it is now random who gets pulled through the timestream. Read about it here: http://www.vg247.com/2014/10/18/destiny-vault-of-glass-atheon-patch/ This, in my humble opinion, is BULL!! Bungie do you hear me? Why take away all the strategy? This thing is a long and difficult grind already without that crap. If the shield/artifact behaved the same way for every glass then this might make sense... But it doesn't. Huge difference between a Titan Defender holding it and a Warlock. So, basically this makes this last checkpoint unplayable. I will NOT be getting the raid people together anymore. Getting 6 people consistently together is hard enough, but 6 people who can and all know how to wield the artifact is impossible. We will still be holding gatherings for other events, but unless this changes many people in our group are not interested in doing all the work for VOG only to get to an impossible last checkpoint.