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Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 8:26:56 AM
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It wasn't enough for 343 to drive the franchise into the ground, they decided to actually drive Halo 2 into the ground... Having Hornets on Coagulation is just Overkill. There is a reason why the hornet was only in 2 Halo 3 matchmaking maps then why it didn't return in Halo. Coagulation on Halo 2 was best the way it was. I can only hope the hornet is not in matchmaking. Banshee was hard enough but to have a 100% controllable flying vehicle is ridiculous. This makes me wonder if 343 then -blam!-ed with the Damage in the whole game since The hornet can take 3 rockets without blowing up when Banshee only took 1...Halo 2 probably just like Halo 4s God damage.. 343 said nothing was changed in Halo 2, Although this lie is only the beginning..
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  • Your a idiot

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 6:57:41 PM
    I provided an opportunity for further discussion, your welcome.

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  • The hornet is far easier to kill than the banshee. Bungie drove the franchise into the ground with Reach, 343 has saved it.

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  • No Reach only existed because of 343, dn it people. Doesn't anyone know the business behind Halo since 2006? Bungie was forced to make another game before the contract ran out. ODST was the only truly planned game to release. Reach was just to compromise. Microsoft wanted a game for 343 to start with its own forum. Bungie made a new engine, Halo Waypoint, did business with Activision, and began Destiny. Bungie dod tier best with Reach but Rea was truly ruined wen 343 took over and messed with it until it was washed up.

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  • Bungie made Halo Reach, not 343. Reach was a abomination 343 had to fix,. They've been great.

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  • Edited by Lord of Admirals: 10/23/2014 5:25:25 PM
    [quote]No Reach only existed because of 343[/quote]wut [quote]Doesn't anyone know the business behind Halo since 2006?[/quote]Yes, Bungie. And then 343i in 2011. [quote]Bungie was forced to make another game before the contract ran out[/quote]Two more. [quote]ODST was the only truly planned game to release. Reach was just to compromise.[/quote]Hold on now, ODST was never planned. In fact, none of the Halo games after CE were planned. After Halo 3, Bungie tried to get away from MS, but they negotiated that they needed to make two more games before they could pursue their interests. [quote]Bungie [b]dod tier[/b] best with Reach but [b]Rea[/b] was truly ruined wen 343 took over and messed with it until it was washed up.[/quote]Are you inebriated right now?

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  • Of course non of the games were planned. After Halo 3 only ODST was planned hence the rumors in 2006. Im not gunna start commenting on your comments of every sentence in my comments. Your citing is mostly irrelevant cause they serve no purpose. They keep derailing the convo.

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  • Proving you wrong isn't derailing the conversation.

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 6:19:48 PM
    No he could prove me wrong just by proving me wrong. Not by quoting what I say then just commenting on it. He doesn't explain it just comments on it like a lousy teacher grading s rough draft.[spoiler]but most of the stuff he mentioned is known.[/spoiler]

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  • Quoting what you said and commenting is exactly how he is proving you wrong.

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 6:41:05 PM
    He has no supportive evidence to refute my points. Just doubtful authority. If he was just statig information then I'd be okay, but he has no purpose[spoiler]this is how it derails a topic. [/spoiler]

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  • Edited by Camnator: 10/23/2014 6:48:36 PM
    It's general knowledge. One doesn't have to prove common knowledge. You also haven't backed up any of your claims, making your comment a bit hypocritical.

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 6:55:25 PM
    No my point is that constantly quoting is ridiculous cause it creates more point on top of each other instead of sticking with one. Noticed how we have not quoted each other and have stayed on one topic just grand. It is just frustrating

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  • It makes it much easier to refute every single one of your retarded points, it's not [b]f[/b]ucking derailing anything

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 7:37:19 PM
    [i]Yeah cause it hasn't derailed anything at all..[/i] He hasn't refuted only sat there making simple and cheap comments that took no thought to form. Don't know why you guys are getting your jimmies rustled.

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  • You seriously think that halo 2 anniversary is going to be shit because the hornet is in coagulation? 1. The hornet is widely considered the best human flying vehicle out of any halo. (I personally hate vehicles) 2. I'm not happy that they put the assault rifle and speed boost into the game but I'm not going to say that the game is shit. Those 2 things could easily be taken out of any playlist (as could the hornet in coagulation hur dur). 3. If you're seriously pms's this much over the hornet in coagulation, just play the classic multiplayer. We all know you're still going to buy the game even though you're going to bitch about it as much as you can. [spoiler]stop being a fgt.[/spoiler]

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 5:47:13 PM
    You people are taking my comment out of proportion. What's the point of remaking a game f it's not even focused on that game. 343 isn't remaking Halo 2, they are just making a new game, but usig the Halo 2 to sell it.

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  • Really so now it's a completely new game? How so? Oh wait you mean the small additions that they have made to the anniversary edition? The ones I can literally count on one hand? 1. The new skins for [b][i]OLD[/i][/b] maps. 2. The new map effects on [i]some[/i] maps. 3. New sandbox additions (only 3 new items). 4. Vehicle variants that can easily be edited. 5. Did I miss anything? Not to mention (since this went over your head the first time) you can play classic multiplayer! This means absolutely no new additions and is the exact same old h2 multiplayer. Stop bitching for the sake of bitching. Either go play destiny or cod or stfu and stop complaining. You don't like the new additions?? Great good for you go play the classic old h2 multiplayer just as it was 10 years ago. You literally have nothing to bitch about. Rekt fgt.

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  • [quote]It wasn't enough for 343 to drive the franchise into the ground, they decided to actually drive Halo 2 into the ground...[/quote]If you're going to bash 343i, at the very least you could do it logically. Last I checked, Halo 2's apart of the Halo franchise, so if they drove the franchise into the ground doesn't that mean Halo 2 was driven with it? [quote]Having Hornets on Coagulation is just Overkill. There is a reason why the hornet was only in 2 Halo 3 matchmaking maps then why it didn't return in Halo.[/quote]Last I checked, it didn't return because it was replaced by the Falcon. [quote]Coagulation on Halo 2 was best the way it was.[/quote]Then play the classic MP. (BTW, all these changes were overseen by Max Hoberman, the guy who's responsible for Halo 2's MP. [quote]I can only hope the hornet is not in matchmaking.[/quote]It will be. [quote]Banshee was hard enough but to have a 100% controllable flying vehicle is ridiculous.[/quote]>implying it will be the exact incarnation of the Halo 3 Hornet (Protip: it's not) [quote]This makes me wonder if 343 then -blam!-ed with the Damage in the whole game since The hornet can take 3 rockets without blowing up when Banshee only took 1...Halo 2 probably just like Halo 4s God damage..[/quote]Halo 2 Anniversary approximates Halo 2's engine. Vehicle health will follow Halo 2's system. [quote]343 said nothing was changed in Halo 2, Although this lie is only the beginning..[/quote]Nothing has been changed. If you don't like Halo 2A's director's cut additions, then just stick to the classic MP.

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 2:22:13 PM
    If a franchise is driven into the ground then how the hell are previous games driven with it? Also yeah the a Falcon did replace the hornet because Bungie didn't want the hornet... This Engine used in Halo 2 doesn't look good, we know. It doesn't matter who apporved the damn shitty changes, it doesn't mean it's suddenly a good thing... Atleast defend 343 with some logic..[spoiler]why did you repeat everything I've said? Kind of weird[/spoiler]

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  • [quote]If a franchise is driven into the ground then how the hell are previous games driven with it?[/quote]Are the previous games not a part of the franchise? Do they exist in some alternate, yet parallel franchise? [quote]Also yeah the a Falcon did replace the hornet because Bungie didn't want the hornet...[/quote]Do you have a source for that? Or are you just projecting your opinions onto Bungie's? [quote]This Engine used in Halo 2 doesn't look good, we know.[/quote] [quote]It doesn't matter who apporved the damn shitty changes, it doesn't mean it's suddenly a good thing...[/quote]Which is perfectly fine, but it's as simple as not playing H2A MP and just playing H2C MP. [quote]Atleast defend 343 with some logic..[/quote]I'm not defending 343i. I'm trying to point out to you that it's absolutely asinine to complain about H2A's MP because the classic experience you love back from 2004 is still in the game, completely untouched, minus the fact they bumped up the resolution and frame rate to 1080p 60fps. Also, you mind pointing out to me where my logic failed? Because my point about yours not making any sense is that you're claiming Halo 2 isn't a part of the Halo franchise. [quote][spoiler]why did you repeat everything I've said? Kind of weird[/spoiler][/quote]It's weird for me to show you exactly which of your points I'm addressing? You must be new to forum posting because every forum I've been on has people who do this.

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 10/23/2014 7:14:30 PM
    It's all leading to one damn point! Not -blam!-in 30. Lol. It's called My body! Not stacked points into another. I'm leading to why I think Hornets are a bad idea. I dont even know what yor argument is suppose to be. I tried to expand upon what i thought was your point, but instead you didn't even make one.

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  • His point is that you can just play the untouched Classic Multiplayer, and have no real basis for your other claims.

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  • Edited by Legend To None: 11/1/2014 8:43:58 AM
    Well he could have just said that instead of quoting words that he formed no points out of..

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